N&W CF project (was N&W RPOs M1)

NW Modeling List nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Sun Aug 4 15:53:12 EDT 2024 

Wow,

Um I'll take three of those two if they fit the AMB kit. Are you selling?

David Baker


On Sun, Aug 4, 2024, 3:40 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Thanks, for the words of encouragement on the M1 car. It it purely driven
> by my desire not to spend $800 on a Div Point car. (although once I have
> 50+ hours into modeling it, $800 will seem like a bargain)
>
> I plan to do this project sooner than later, but it won't be for a little
> while. Jim Cochran and I are in the middle of a large caboose project. I'm
> 3d modeling an interior for brass cabins, and attempting to fit space for
> electronics, in the process. That's where Jim the electronics guru comes
> in. We hope to create a well-hidden, track-powered electronics package that
> provides smooth, constant LED interior lighting. The goal is for the LEDs
> to stay lit for as long as possible; perhaps 15-30 minutes. I also need to
> thank Ken Miller for a floorplan blueprint, and Matt Goodman & Abe Burnett
> for their support, advice, and reference pictures.
>
> This 3d render view shows the model as it is approaching completion. I am
> debating the value of adding cross walls behind the cupola seats on which I
> can mount the air brake valve and air brake gauge. I'm not sure how visible
> they will be when added, which will determine my interest.  I also need to
> add handrails up into the cupola from below, as well as the handrail that
> was mounted near the ceiling and ran lengthwise in the car for holding one
> when climbing down. This is where Abe hit his head often in the dark, and I
> posit this may be the cause of his talking about turnips in so many emails.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> when printed, it fits inside the brass car body, replacing the cross
> struts that the underbody mounts to.
> THESE WONT WORK WITH OVERLAND  - for now, I may get around to that, as I
> have a couple. But they are painted, so I am less interested in mucking
> around with them and having to repaint.
> [image: image.png]
> This is a damaged test car, which allowed me to desolder the brackets
> without fear of ruining a good model. I will probably fix this one
> eventually, too. You can see below that they used a ton of solder when
> assembling the car. Even my desoldering copper wick couldn't get it all
> cleaned up very well, so I just ground it out with a tungsten carbide
> carving bit in my Dremel. The solder comes away quickly and it's easy to
> stop at the brass. I did overheat one corner of the car while grinding away
> blobs of solder in the interior corners and the corner came de-soldered. I
> will have to be aware of this on future cars and remember to use a damp
> towel to keep the car cool when grinding.
> [image: image.png]
> [image: image.png]
>
> Here's an example of the progression of test prints. the one on right is
> prior to modeling all the bunks.
> The interior on the left is before Abe told me he never saw a cab in this
> configuration (hey, I built it to the blueprints Ken Miller sent me!) Turns
> out the blueprints we started with were for pre-1924 cars, so there went
> another evening of modifications. There are not yet lanterns modeled. there
> were two kerosene lanterns; one over the sink and one on the opposite end
> of the cab, on the opposite car side, but it was attached to the cupola
> seat wall, not the cabin outer wall.
> The cab on the top.... well that's a whole new interior to make.
> Hopefully, I will be better/more efficient by the time I get to these cars.
> [image: image.png]
>
> The three painted cabs are AMB kits, and Matt has a couple of his AMB's
> built with removable floors, so I am also going to make some kits for AMB
> that will not include walls or floors, and will just include seats and
> bunks and kitchen, so you can glue them in as individual pieces.
> [image: image.png]
>
> So that's where things stand. This is going slowly. I hope to have this
> whole project wrapped up within the next 3 months (paint included). I only
> work on it a handful of hours each week.
> When I get this done, I may be ready to start on M1.
>
> Mike Rector
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 4, 2024 at 7:13 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
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>> Mike:
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>> I’d also be interested in at least one for myself.  Thanks,
>>
>> George Weber
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>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 3, 2024 8:32 PM
>> *To:* 'NW Modeling List' <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Cc:* NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Subject:* RE: N&W RPOs M1
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>> I’d be interested in one for myself. Phil Miller From: NW-Modeling-List
>> On Behalf Of NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List Sent: Saturday, August
>> 3, 2024 3:05 PM To: NW Modeling List Cc: NW Modeling
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>> sophospsmartbannerend
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>> I’d be interested in one for myself.
>>
>> Phil Miller
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>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 3, 2024 3:05 PM
>> *To:* NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Cc:* NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: N&W RPOs M1
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>> Mike, We talked about these before. I'll still take 3 when/if you get
>> them going.
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>> Roger Huber
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>> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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>> On Saturday, August 3, 2024 at 01:57:11 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> That is amazing, if you ever make that I'm in.
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>> David Baker
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, 8:45 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg
>> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
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>> A few of you know, this is on my short list to 3d model and print. I did
>> complete the car side last year, and decided I would prefer to make a
>> complete car rather than attach a car side to an inaccurate donor core. I
>> sort of stopped because I wasn't sure how to model the complex curves of
>> the roof ends, but that has been resolved. If you can be patient, maybe I
>> can knock it out after I finish my major caboose project. (painting and
>> detailing a bunch of brass CF/CH/C3 cabins)
>>
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>> I did a couple test prints, but didn't support it well enough which led
>> to the close corner warping that you see below.
>>
>> However, you can see that it prints very well overall, and with better
>> supports this would be a non-issue.
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>> Mike Rector
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 11:27 AM NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>>
>> Thanks, I'll poke around for M70 kits. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a
>> real model but a stand-in must do for some equipment you can't really buy
>> as it's too rare. Lol if anyone wants to get rid of one ... I've got some
>> K1s and K2s that would be happy to pull them.
>>
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>> I've leaned enough through the society to try and get a better balance of
>> mail/storage vs. express.
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>> :)
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>> David Baker
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, 8:07 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
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>> David,
>>
>> If a stand-in will do, you might watch E-bay for a Walthers 7831.  It was
>> an M1, but the lapse of 60 or so years has rendered it "crude" by today's
>> standards.
>>
>> Jim Cochran
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024 at 7:22 AM NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the info. Only done in brass probably means it would take ten
>> years to even find one, hmmm it looks a bit like the PRR M70. Perhaps I'll
>> use that as a a stand in.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> David Baker
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>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2024, 7:09 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
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>> The M1 has been dine in brass.
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>> Jim Nichols
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>> On Thursday, August 1, 2024 at 09:32:12 PM EDT, NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Society,
>>
>> Were there any N&W RPOs done in HO? Specifically the M1 or something that
>> was not a combination RPO?
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the knowledge,
>>
>> David Baker
>>
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