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Thu Nov 19 15:35:33 EST 2009

He is right. I used to view ex-SOU and ex-N&W GP30's on NS grain trains
parked at Clare Yard in Cincinnati in the early 1990's. While the N&W's
were a greenish-gray black that had a bunch of fading to a matte finish, the
SOU's tended to stay glossier and kinda blacker but the loco hood's had a
lot more rusting along the lower edges. And the N&W's were earlier GP30
Phase 1's and the Southerns were all Phase 2's

Gary Rolih



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Subject: Re: BLACK

Don't laugh. Norfolk and Western's black actually faded to a different sheen
than Southern's black. Southern faded to a richer black it that makes any

Richard D. Shell

Troutville, VA

In a message dated1/18/2009 8:01:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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What would be the nearest match for Virginian black. Smehow it must
be different to N&W black....

Peter North
Norfolk, England
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