Neon Sign dimensions for N&W Roanoke Shops

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Tue Feb 5 09:51:15 EST 2008

Does Miller or Miler Engineering have a web-site?

George Weber


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Subject: RE: Neon Sign dimensions for N&W Roanoke Shops

Here was Miller Engineering's reply about Roanoke Shops signs idea.
Perhaps NWHS officials can persuade them?

Thanks for sending those images. We get many requests for sign and I
have heard of the N&W Railway's Roanoke Shops, and it is a great sign.
The question that always determines if we do a sign is how many would we
sell? The that Roanoke sign is for a very specific area so I am not sure
how many we would sell. I have added the images you sent to our image
library for future consideration.
Thanks, again,
Miler Engineering

Summary of my email to them:
I wondered if you had given any consideration to making signs for the
N&W Railway's Roanoke Shops. There were two versions of the sign at the
shops over the years before N&W became Norfolk Southern and the sign was
replaced with a large rectangular sign elsewhere on the building

There was a sign from the days of steam - I'm guessing from the 1930's
to about 1971, with the lettering spelling out "N & W Roanoke Shops."

>From about 1971 to about 1987, the sign read simply "NW Roanoke Shops."

Attached are photos of the sign from the late 1980's along with a link
to a night shot of it too.

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Subject: RE: Neon Sign dimensions for N&W Roanoke Shops

Miller Engineering, the company who makes the Roanoke "icons",
was at the last swap meet in York, Pennsylvania selling their products.
They had all of Roanoke's "big three" signs on dispaly, which caught my
parents' attention, so they stopped at Miller's booth and talked to the
rep for few minutes. Not only do they make the Roanoke signs, but they
also make many other signs from around the country. Anyway, Mom asked
how they chose which signs to make and the woman said that usually
someone asks for a particular sign and sends in a photo.

If anyone's interested (and I am), send them the photo of NW's
neon sign and see what they say. I'd also like to see them make the
Sauer's "chef" from the Sauer's factory in Richmond! They've also
recently issued Roanoke's "big three" as animated Christmas ornaments!


Ed Cake

NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at> wrote:
It would be neat to see the NW Shops sign(s) made up like the
other Roanoke icons currently being sold (the H&C Coffee, Dr. Pepper,
and Roanoke Star).

Phil Miller

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