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Then from one blind hog to another, my pleasure. I had no idea where 
this was, but agree, it is an intriguing shot and got lucky. The S&C 
pole line was not N&W, so that "narrowed" it initially to a WAB or NKP 
line, with a Pennsy connection, in a hilly, commercial area. BTW, the 
double-track NKP main is about 6 blocks north and both lines appear to 
be in great shape.

Grant Carpenter

On 9/6/2022 8:48 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> Grant,
> Thanks for your information.
> A very appreciative blind hog (Jim Cochran)
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:06 PM NW Mailing List 
> <nw-mailing-list at> wrote:
>     Jim,
>     This is one of those, "Even a blind hog. . .":
>     This was taken in Fort Wayne on the ex-WAB, looking west towards
>     downtown. The photographer is standing on the Edsall Avenue
>     overpass (google 41.071507, -85.099469), overlooking the Lumbard
>     Street grade crossing. The track ahead is littered with grade
>     crossings, so that is a holdout signal to protect the grade
>     crossings from trains blocking them while stopping for the distant
>     signal. In effect a repeater, it would repeat the stop indication
>     of the distant signal and hold the approaching movement clear of
>     the crossings.
>     The distant signal protects the crossing with the ex-PRR main line
>     to Chicago and that would explain the lineage of the holdout
>     signal. By this time, the distant signal has been changed out to
>     an N&W four-arm CPL bracket signal. The holdout signal has
>     suffered an update to a shadow of its former self, but it's still
>     there.
>     Grant Carpenter
>     On 9/4/2022 11:36 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
>>     On Ebay for a few more hours is the following:
>>     <>
>>     It appears to show a single-armed CPL with only the three
>>     horizontal positions occupied.  I don't believe I've seen this
>>     configuration before.  It would seem the signal could only
>>     indicate stop and proceed, but there would be no need for the
>>     center position.
>>     Any thoughts/speculations as to the purpose of the signals or the
>>     location would be greatly appreciated.
>>     Jim Cochran
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