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Thanks for your information.
A very appreciative blind hog (Jim Cochran)

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 3:06 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at>

> Jim,
> This is one of those, "Even a blind hog. . .":
> This was taken in Fort Wayne on the ex-WAB, looking west towards downtown.
> The photographer is standing on the Edsall Avenue overpass (google
> 41.071507, -85.099469), overlooking the Lumbard Street grade crossing. The
> track ahead is littered with grade crossings, so that is a holdout signal
> to protect the grade crossings from trains blocking them while stopping for
> the distant signal. In effect a repeater, it would repeat the stop
> indication of the distant signal and hold the approaching movement clear of
> the crossings.
> The distant signal protects the crossing with the ex-PRR main line to
> Chicago and that would explain the lineage of the holdout signal. By this
> time, the distant signal has been changed out to an N&W four-arm CPL
> bracket signal. The holdout signal has suffered an update to a shadow of
> its former self, but it's still there.
> Grant Carpenter
> On 9/4/2022 11:36 AM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> On Ebay for a few more hours is the following:
> It appears to show a single-armed CPL with only the three horizontal
> positions occupied.  I don't believe I've seen this configuration before.
> It would seem the signal could only indicate stop and proceed, but there
> would be no need for the center position.
> Any thoughts/speculations as to the purpose of the signals or the location
> would be greatly appreciated.
> Jim Cochran
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