future 611 trips ??

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Thu Jun 1 09:42:07 EDT 2017 

Folks:
Don't forget that the Manassas to Front Royal runs were complete sell 
outs.
There is gold (money) in them thar hills of Prince William County and 
Northern Va....
Eric


On 2017-06-01 07:29, NW Mailing List wrote:
> http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Norfolk-Southern-is-open-to-Roanoke-area-611-Excursions-in-2018-425564914.html
> [4]
> 
> Sounds like NS is willing to do more Roanoke area trips. But as said
> earlier 611 needs to change up on where she goes to help bring ticket
> sales back. 
> 
> My vote is a long days round trip Roanoke-Riverton and return. Or
> perhaps some sort of an Overnight loop? Roanoke to Manassas via
> Riverton day 1. Then Manassas to Roanoke via the Southern on day 2?
> Perhaps the VMT should approach NS about going out on the pokey some?
> Perhaps Bluefield to Iaeger? Or Williamson to Devon?
> 
> 73,
> Nate
> 
> On Jun 1, 2017 05:45, "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> I dont post much as I am more of a pupil here but I believe we have
>> a limited window of opportunity to get big steam back in action.  I
>> live in Cleveland and at at the Midwest Railway Preservation Society
>> they have two steam locomotives under restoration at the old B&O
>> roundhouse.
>> 
>> My point is...the number of people that remember working steam is
>> dwindling; the number of skilled mechanics who can do that type of
>> work is dwindling; therefore it is my fear that as each year goes
>> bye, the people willing to donate money or estate gifts goes BYE. 
>> Now is the time to pull out all the stops and establish self
>> sustainable preservation trusts that ensure their operation for the
>> next 100 years.  The 1218 only has a small window of opportunity to
>> be back under steam, otherwise she will be relegated to Madame
>> Tussauds wax museum status for ever.
>> Operation stirs interest...interest stirs participation and
>> donations, thus longevity.
>> 
>> Case in point....how many kids want a lionel train for Christmas any
>> more?   Just my $0.02 worth...
>> 
>> Chris Bunsey
>> Cleveland Ohio 
>> 
>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
>> 
>> -------- Original message --------
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>> 
>> Date: 5/31/17 1:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Cc: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>> 
>> Good evening,
>> 
>> Perhaps a funding mechanism equal to the donation of the equivalent
>> of a
>> pint of beer per week by a large number of people would work. That
>> is how
>> the Tornado project was funded.
>> 
>> For 1218 it has to be worth it.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Phil Mortimer
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
>> Behalf Of
>> NW Mailing List
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:01 PM
>> To: NW Mailing List
>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>> 
>> Unfortunately, since 1218 was in the middle of a rebuild when the
>> original
>> NS steam program ended in 1994, many parts were not put back.  The
>> parts
>> that are with her are probably still in good condition, but they may
>> actually have to find or fabricate more parts to restore her today
>> than was
>> necessary in 1987.  Given the cost involved with restoring and
>> maintaining a
>> steam locomotive and the missing components, 1218 is likely going to
>> require
>> a rather wealthy and enterprising benefactor in order to be placed
>> back in
>> operation.
>> 
>> Marty Flick
>> 
>> ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Good morning from this side of the pond,
>>> 
>>> Getting 611 out and about more is a good idea but has problems
>> such as
>>> ensuring the support team and any related rolling stock can also
>> be
>>> accommodated. 611 is a great icon and should be open to a wider
>> public.
>>> 
>>> The new Tornado here still brings out the crowds whenever it is
>> scheduled
>> to
>>> operate. Ditto a lot more steam locos cleared for main line
>> running.
>>> 
>>> What are the intentions for 1218?
>>> 
>>> Phil Mortimer
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> NW Mailing List
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:24 PM
>>> To: NW Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: future 611 trips ??
>>> 
>>>   "Amtrak primarily will run routes during the week, freeing up
>> possible
>> time
>>> and equipment, and cars to rent for weekend excursions."
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know where this little gem came from?  I don't know
>> about some
>>> of the regional service, but the national routes don't take the
>> weekends
>>> off. 
>>> 
>>> I don't really read anything into this regarding NS, at least from
>> the
>>> article alone, but there have been complaints on this list, and I
>> imagine
>>> else where, too, about 611 running the same Roanoke based trips
>> over and
>>> over.  I can easily see ridership dropping, as the mileage
>> collectors and
>>> railfans willing to travel to ride 611 have been there, done
>> that.  It
>>> doesn't matter if they go with NS, Amtrak, or NRHS chapters, but
>> they need
>>> to get 611 on the road to reach more fans.  They need a mindset
>> like 765
>> or
>>> 4449, not 1225.
>>> 
>>> Marty Flick
>>> 
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>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
> http://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/changes-ahead-for-611-excursions
>> [1]
>>>> 
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>>>> Changes ahead for 611 excursions
>>>>   By Rachel Lucas The Virginia Museum of Transportation is now
>> looking to
>>> expand the excursions to new areas to increase interest ... 
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>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Kind of sounds like either a) not as many people are riding or
>> b) NS is
>>> looking to punt the trips over to Amtrak.
>>>> Brian Dembinski
>>>> 
>>>>      On Monday, May 29, 2017 6:36 AM, NW Mailing List
>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>   Has anyone heard of the future of any more trips either at the
>> NC
>>> Transportation Museum or on the NS mainline for next year?
>>>> I just got a message from "a good source" that said this year's
>> trips,
>>> i.e., Monday, May 29th is IT and no more afterwards.
>>>> Anyone else heard anything?
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