future 611 trips ??

NW Mailing List nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
Thu Jun 1 10:39:18 EDT 2017 

Indeed there is a lot of money in Northern Virginia. As far as trips go in that part of the state I think it would advantageous of Fire Up 611 to push for an Alexandria to Manassas trip or Manassas to Lynchburg trip.

Very Respectfully,
Joseph Congemi

> On Jun 1, 2017, at 09:42, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> Folks:
> Don't forget that the Manassas to Front Royal runs were complete sell outs.
> There is gold (money) in them thar hills of Prince William County and Northern Va....
> Eric
> 
> 
>> On 2017-06-01 07:29, NW Mailing List wrote:
>> http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Norfolk-Southern-is-open-to-Roanoke-area-611-Excursions-in-2018-425564914.html
>> [4]
>> Sounds like NS is willing to do more Roanoke area trips. But as said
>> earlier 611 needs to change up on where she goes to help bring ticket
>> sales back. 
>> My vote is a long days round trip Roanoke-Riverton and return. Or
>> perhaps some sort of an Overnight loop? Roanoke to Manassas via
>> Riverton day 1. Then Manassas to Roanoke via the Southern on day 2?
>> Perhaps the VMT should approach NS about going out on the pokey some?
>> Perhaps Bluefield to Iaeger? Or Williamson to Devon?
>> 73,
>> Nate
>> On Jun 1, 2017 05:45, "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>> I dont post much as I am more of a pupil here but I believe we have
>>> a limited window of opportunity to get big steam back in action.  I
>>> live in Cleveland and at at the Midwest Railway Preservation Society
>>> they have two steam locomotives under restoration at the old B&O
>>> roundhouse.
>>> My point is...the number of people that remember working steam is
>>> dwindling; the number of skilled mechanics who can do that type of
>>> work is dwindling; therefore it is my fear that as each year goes
>>> bye, the people willing to donate money or estate gifts goes BYE. 
>>> Now is the time to pull out all the stops and establish self
>>> sustainable preservation trusts that ensure their operation for the
>>> next 100 years.  The 1218 only has a small window of opportunity to
>>> be back under steam, otherwise she will be relegated to Madame
>>> Tussauds wax museum status for ever.
>>> Operation stirs interest...interest stirs participation and
>>> donations, thus longevity.
>>> Case in point....how many kids want a lionel train for Christmas any
>>> more?   Just my $0.02 worth...
>>> Chris Bunsey
>>> Cleveland Ohio 
>>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>> Date: 5/31/17 1:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>> Cc: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
>>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>>> Good evening,
>>> Perhaps a funding mechanism equal to the donation of the equivalent
>>> of a
>>> pint of beer per week by a large number of people would work. That
>>> is how
>>> the Tornado project was funded.
>>> For 1218 it has to be worth it.
>>> Regards
>>> Phil Mortimer
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
>>> Behalf Of
>>> NW Mailing List
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:01 PM
>>> To: NW Mailing List
>>> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>>> Unfortunately, since 1218 was in the middle of a rebuild when the
>>> original
>>> NS steam program ended in 1994, many parts were not put back.  The
>>> parts
>>> that are with her are probably still in good condition, but they may
>>> actually have to find or fabricate more parts to restore her today
>>> than was
>>> necessary in 1987.  Given the cost involved with restoring and
>>> maintaining a
>>> steam locomotive and the missing components, 1218 is likely going to
>>> require
>>> a rather wealthy and enterprising benefactor in order to be placed
>>> back in
>>> operation.
>>> Marty Flick
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>>> wrote:
>>>> Good morning from this side of the pond,
>>>> Getting 611 out and about more is a good idea but has problems
>>> such as
>>>> ensuring the support team and any related rolling stock can also
>>> be
>>>> accommodated. 611 is a great icon and should be open to a wider
>>> public.
>>>> The new Tornado here still brings out the crowds whenever it is
>>> scheduled
>>> to
>>>> operate. Ditto a lot more steam locos cleared for main line
>>> running.
>>>> What are the intentions for 1218?
>>>> Phil Mortimer
>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>>> NW Mailing List
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:24 PM
>>>> To: NW Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: future 611 trips ??
>>>>   "Amtrak primarily will run routes during the week, freeing up
>>> possible
>>> time
>>>> and equipment, and cars to rent for weekend excursions."
>>>> Does anyone know where this little gem came from?  I don't know
>>> about some
>>>> of the regional service, but the national routes don't take the
>>> weekends
>>>> off. 
>>>> I don't really read anything into this regarding NS, at least from
>>> the
>>>> article alone, but there have been complaints on this list, and I
>>> imagine
>>>> else where, too, about 611 running the same Roanoke based trips
>>> over and
>>>> over.  I can easily see ridership dropping, as the mileage
>>> collectors and
>>>> railfans willing to travel to ride 611 have been there, done
>>> that.  It
>>>> doesn't matter if they go with NS, Amtrak, or NRHS chapters, but
>>> they need
>>>> to get 611 on the road to reach more fans.  They need a mindset
>>> like 765
>>> or
>>>> 4449, not 1225.
>>>> Marty Flick
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>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> http://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/changes-ahead-for-611-excursions
>>> [1]
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>>>>> Changes ahead for 611 excursions
>>>>>   By Rachel Lucas The Virginia Museum of Transportation is now
>>> looking to
>>>> expand the excursions to new areas to increase interest ... 
>>> |   |
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>>>>>  
>>>>> Kind of sounds like either a) not as many people are riding or
>>> b) NS is
>>>> looking to punt the trips over to Amtrak.
>>>>> Brian Dembinski
>>>>>      On Monday, May 29, 2017 6:36 AM, NW Mailing List
>>>> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>>>>  
>>>>>   Has anyone heard of the future of any more trips either at the
>>> NC
>>>> Transportation Museum or on the NS mainline for next year?
>>>>> I just got a message from "a good source" that said this year's
>>> trips,
>>>> i.e., Monday, May 29th is IT and no more afterwards.
>>>>> Anyone else heard anything?
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