future 611 trips ??

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Thu Jun 1 07:29:35 EDT 2017


http://www.wdbj7.com/content/news/Norfolk-Southern-is-open-to-Roanoke-area-611-Excursions-in-2018-425564914.html

Sounds like NS is willing to do more Roanoke area trips. But as said
earlier 611 needs to change up on where she goes to help bring ticket sales
back.

My vote is a long days round trip Roanoke-Riverton and return. Or perhaps
some sort of an Overnight loop? Roanoke to Manassas via Riverton day 1.
Then Manassas to Roanoke via the Southern on day 2? Perhaps the VMT should
approach NS about going out on the pokey some? Perhaps Bluefield to Iaeger?
Or Williamson to Devon?

73,
Nate

On Jun 1, 2017 05:45, "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

> I dont post much as I am more of a pupil here but I believe we have a
> limited window of opportunity to get big steam back in action.  I live in
> Cleveland and at at the Midwest Railway Preservation Society they have two
> steam locomotives under restoration at the old B&O roundhouse.
>
> My point is...the number of people that remember working steam is
> dwindling; the number of skilled mechanics who can do that type of work is
> dwindling; therefore it is my fear that as each year goes bye, the people
> willing to donate money or estate gifts goes BYE.  Now is the time to pull
> out all the stops and establish self sustainable preservation trusts that
> ensure their operation for the next 100 years.  The 1218 only has a small
> window of opportunity to be back under steam, otherwise she will be
> relegated to Madame Tussauds wax museum status for ever.
> Operation stirs interest...interest stirs participation and donations,
> thus longevity.
>
> Case in point....how many kids want a lionel train for Christmas any more?
>   Just my $0.02 worth...
>
> Chris Bunsey
> Cleveland Ohio
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 6.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Date: 5/31/17 1:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'NW Mailing List' <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Cc: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>
> Good evening,
>
> Perhaps a funding mechanism equal to the donation of the equivalent of a
> pint of beer per week by a large number of people would work. That is how
> the Tornado project was funded.
>
> For 1218 it has to be worth it.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil Mortimer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf
> Of
> NW Mailing List
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 6:01 PM
> To: NW Mailing List
> Subject: RE: future 611 trips ??
>
> Unfortunately, since 1218 was in the middle of a rebuild when the original
> NS steam program ended in 1994, many parts were not put back.  The parts
> that are with her are probably still in good condition, but they may
> actually have to find or fabricate more parts to restore her today than was
> necessary in 1987.  Given the cost involved with restoring and maintaining
> a
> steam locomotive and the missing components, 1218 is likely going to
> require
> a rather wealthy and enterprising benefactor in order to be placed back in
> operation.
>
> Marty Flick
>
>
> ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
> > Good morning from this side of the pond,
> >
> > Getting 611 out and about more is a good idea but has problems such as
> > ensuring the support team and any related rolling stock can also be
> > accommodated. 611 is a great icon and should be open to a wider public.
> >
> > The new Tornado here still brings out the crowds whenever it is scheduled
> to
> > operate. Ditto a lot more steam locos cleared for main line running.
> >
> > What are the intentions for 1218?
> >
> > Phil Mortimer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On
> Behalf
> Of
> > NW Mailing List
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:24 PM
> > To: NW Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: future 611 trips ??
> >
> >  "Amtrak primarily will run routes during the week, freeing up possible
> time
> > and equipment, and cars to rent for weekend excursions."
> >
> > Does anyone know where this little gem came from?  I don't know about
> some
> > of the regional service, but the national routes don't take the weekends
> > off.
> >
> > I don't really read anything into this regarding NS, at least from the
> > article alone, but there have been complaints on this list, and I imagine
> > else where, too, about 611 running the same Roanoke based trips over and
> > over.  I can easily see ridership dropping, as the mileage collectors and
> > railfans willing to travel to ride 611 have been there, done that.  It
> > doesn't matter if they go with NS, Amtrak, or NRHS chapters, but they
> need
> > to get 611 on the road to reach more fans.  They need a mindset like 765
> or
> > 4449, not 1225.
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> >
> > ---- NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
>
> > >
> http://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/roanoke/changes-ahead-for-611-excursions
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |
> > > |   |    |
> > >
> > >    |
> > >
> > >   |
> > > |
> > > |   |
> > > Changes ahead for 611 excursions
> > >  By Rachel Lucas The Virginia Museum of Transportation is now looking
> to
> > expand the excursions to new areas to increase interest ...  |   |
> > >
> > >   |
> > >
> > >   |
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kind of sounds like either a) not as many people are riding or b) NS is
> > looking to punt the trips over to Amtrak.
> > > Brian Dembinski
> > >
> > >     On Monday, May 29, 2017 6:36 AM, NW Mailing List
> > <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  Has anyone heard of the future of any more trips either at the NC
> > Transportation Museum or on the NS mainline for next year?
> > > I just got a message from "a good source" that said this year's trips,
> > i.e., Monday, May 29th is IT and no more afterwards.
> > > Anyone else heard anything?
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