NW-Mailing-List Digest, Vol 107, Issue 19 (Trains 5 and 6)

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I do not have any firsthand  knowledge of the motive power of trains 5 and 6 in early 1959, but on page 198 of the recent book Norfolk & Western's Clinch Valley Line (on sale through the Commissary) there are two photos: one is of train 6 heading east to Bluefield on July 23, 1958 pulled by GP9 #790; the second photo is of train 5 heading west from Bluefield on July 24, 1958 pulled by the same GP9. So on at least those two days trains 5 and 6 were pulled by a GP9.
The second photo also  on page 118 of Norfolk and Western: First Generation Diesels.

On pages 200-201 of the Clinch Valley Line book there is a reprint of an  article describing the last run of trains 5 and 6 on April 4, 1959. On that date those trains were pulled by two GP9's (the road numbers were not mentioned in the article).

Paul Mandelkern
Winter Park, Florida

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I have seen a photo somewhere of a freight GP9 pulling 5 or 6. So maybe that is the answer to your question. The use of the aux. tender has to do with the retirement of water plugs, probably because the Y's were all using aux. tenders by then. I don't know the start date.

Jim Nichols
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When did Trains 5 and 6 acquire the use of auxiliary tenders (see p. 101, Norfolk & Western in the Appalachians)? Was it due to the elimination of watering facilities on the Clinch Valley line?

And what was typically the motive power on 5 and 6 between January and April 1959 after 563 and 578 were retired? Any 1959 photos of 5 & 6 other than those of the final run?

John Garner
Newport, VA.

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What   does Bixby's data or any other source say about when and/or where E2b Pacific   # 547 was scrapped?

Thanks

Dave   Gooding

The archives probably has a source of data equivalent to Bixby's .  It's the Engine Assignment Ledger -  which was primarily a source for determining which division a locomotive was assigned to.  But there's other information there too.  From the 1910s, entries in the ledger were hand-written.

Eng 547 - orignially assigned to the Shenandoah Div.  Transferred to
                 the Radford Div. 4-16-30. Dismantled at Roanoke 4/27/51

Eng 563 - Retired at Bluefield 12/2/58.
Eng 578 - originally assigned to the Scioto Div.  Retired at Bluefield 12/26/58
                 Donated to Ohio Railway Museum 2-12-59.

Note that the "retired" date may not be the same as the "scrap" date.  The ledger doesn't list all scrap dates, but it does show firms scrapping some of the locomotives.  Incidentally, a recent investigation of records indicated that the VGN people in Norfolk had listed Eng 429 retired,  but two months after retirement, it was used in emergency service at Princeton, which  meant the accounting people had to revise all the records, notify the ICC and advise the folks in Princeton that 429 wasn't to be used in emergencies
without Norfolk's permission.              Harry Bundy

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