Bowser announcement

Sun Oct 19 23:34:24 EDT 2025

My last note had 2 pictures of 1013 attached.

Ed

On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 11:32 PM Edwin Painter <edwinpainter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I've got shots of all the low hood exWabash C425's.  I've got shots of
> 1011 through 1016.  These units are all black with written out N&W and 1/2
> moon herolds in yellow.  As for 1013 I have one shot that shows it in what
> appears to be faded blue but other shots that clearly appear to show it in
> black??????
>
> Ed Painter
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 9:16 PM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>> Brent,
>> I have a photo of the 1013 on the dead line adjacent to Shenandoah Avenue
>> in Roanoke in August 1981.  It looks to be badly faded Pevler Blue with a
>> large swath of rust along the mid section of the engineers side long hood.
>> I’d be surprised if it ever received any additional paint before it was
>> sold.  In the prior summer of 1980,  I got a shot of the 1007 in the same
>> vicinity.  It was wearing a somewhat uncouth hybrid paint scheme.  The
>> paint was weathered black with a dulux gold half moon herald and road
>> number on the cab side yet the engineers side long hood was adorned with
>> the Fishwick era large white “NW”.  I don’t ever recall seeing another
>> paint job quite like it!
>> Cheers,
>> Chris Dalton
>> Bluefield, WV
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2025, at 7:00 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I’ll look through my pictures of C425s after I get home later this
>> afternoon.  I don’t recall any C425’s in that scheme.  C420s 413 and 417
>> both had the large N&W scheme.
>>
>> Ed Painter, Narrows, VA
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 5:11 PM NW Modeling List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Ken, that definitely answered my question.  I had remembered
>>> seeing one of the C420 units in the "n & w" black livery and just wondered
>>> if any of the C425's might have also gotten it.
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> Dr. J. Brent Greer
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org> on behalf
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>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2025 4:20:40 PM
>>> *To:* NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: Bowser announcement
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>> The Archives does not have a huge selection of photos of and C425, but
>>> the 1013 in the large “N&W” scheme does not seem likely, as this photo from
>>> the Archives:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nwhs.org%2Farchivesdb%2Fdetail.php%3FID%3D164156&data=05%7C02%7C%7Cb40e6c2263ce4ecc397a08de0f4d07d5%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C638965020673440661%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=LhOjc7tlnWXKnqZochVJb7Jb906cuzw9dMpsCtcUEeY%3D&reserved=0
>>> <https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=164156>
>>>
>>> Depicts it stored in 1984 in very faded blue, and it was sold that year.
>>>
>>> Bob Bowers database on our website indicated it was stored in 2019
>>> awaiting wheel work. The only thing I can find is a photo of it stored at
>>> Gowand, NY taken in July, that shows it continuing to deteriorate with lots
>>> of rusty paint. If it needs wheel work, it likely may not be able to move
>>> or interchange without that work being done.
>>>
>>> Seems a shame to see it rotting into the ground, but likely the cost of
>>> moving it prohibits much museum opportunity.
>>>
>>> So it could be offered in original black, and the blue and gold schemes.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Ken Miller
>>>
>>> > On Oct 19, 2025, at 1:42 PM, NW Modeling List <
>>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Since #1013 lasted the longest on the N&W roster, as well as still out
>>> there operating somewhere, I would think that would be the logical choice.
>>> I will commit to purchasing a #1013 through the Society if offered, with
>>> the proviso that it would have to be in the as delivered scheme (black with
>>> the hamburger style heralds)
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know if this unit might have ever received the short-lived
>>> Black with "n & w" scheme?  I've seen photos of it in Blue and looking in
>>> dire need of a repaint.  Just wondering if it got it or not.
>>> >
>>> > Brent
>>> >
>>> > Dr. J. Brent GreerFrom: NW-Modeling-List <
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>>> > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2025 8:46 AM
>>> > To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>>> > Subject: Re: Bowser announcement
>>> >  James,
>>> > Thanks for your reply and clearing up the numbering that I had
>>> mis-read.  So it looks like we could ask Bowser to do an odd number for us
>>> if enough folks were interested in buying one.  Give me a show of hands if
>>> you would purchase one from the Society in a unique number.
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Jim Cochran
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 7:50 AM NW Modeling List <
>>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> > Bowser is offering four numbers: 1008, 1010, 1014, 1016.
>>> > Numbers are the same for DCC ready and with DCC Sound.
>>> > I modeled 1013 since it was the last retired and remained on the
>>> roster the longest.
>>> >
>>> > Not sure on the EL units matching the ex-Wabash units.  Appears the EL
>>> units have dynamic brakes where the Wabash units did not.
>>> >
>>> >> On Oct 18, 2025, at 05:55, NW Modeling List <
>>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> OK,
>>> >> I have done a little more looking and it appears that Bowser is
>>> offering all 10 HH models already.  However, the LH photos from their ad
>>> show EL units that seem to match up well with my photo of N&W 1003.  Please
>>> let me know if this is correct.
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Jim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > James Wall
>>> > Rural Hall, NC
>>> >
>>> >
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