NS 12 Indiana

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Sun Nov 12 14:14:34 EST 2023

Hi Jim,


I think N&W reworked the car in the early 1990s to add more windows to the blank side. The car was originally an N&W D1 diner car, which explains why there are no doors and steps into the car. I don’t know when N&W converted it from a diner to a sleeper/dorm(?) car. 

I made a model of this car in the mid-1980’s using a Rivarossi coach as the core and I reworked the car sides. I’ve attached photos of my model. Had I known its original configuration, I might have used a Rivarossi diner car, which would have resolved the windows on one side of the car. You can notice the side with 3 windows closely matches the NS12 windows, once you plug the rest. That leaves what to do with the other side that was all blank, but now has more windows added to it. 


I’d love to see what your friend does with his effort to make this car. It would be great for any model of the NW/NS business train.

Phil Miller


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A friend captured an image of NS 12, Indiana, on Horseshoe Curve recently.    <https://photos.app.goo.gl/24Et2MYK2qr52e5F6> https://photosapp.goo.gl/24Et2MYK2qr52e5F6


He is interested in obtaining accurate information on the car to model it.  I have a diagram of the car from the mid-90s, which shows only three windows on the aisle side, and no windows on the bedroom side.


In his photo, there are 5 windows on the aisle side; images at   <http://rrpicturearchives.net/> rrpicturearchives.net . 

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=425889 <http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=425889&Page=1> &Page=1 show the car in April 2023 with 5 windows on one side, and 8 windows on the other side.


Can anyone offer any explanation/history of NS 12?  Many thanks in advance.


Jim Brewer

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