The Cavalier Drumhead (Rear Tail Sign)

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Fri Oct 25 02:14:54 EDT 2019


A much better, and color view is from N&WHS site

https://www..nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=90149

A non-N&W drumhead at Bristol

https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=94056

Last run of Pocahontas with wooden tail sign
https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=64418

Ken Miller

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 9:46 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> I have enclosed the drumhead on the Arrow tavern car. Hope this can help. It along with a lot of stuff N&W on the VA Tech Imagebase.
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> Subject: Re: The Cavalier Drumhead (Rear Tail Sign) 
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> Attached is the tail sign for The Pocahontas offered by Tomar Industries.  Like The Cavalier drumhead that they sell, it looks like something drawn with a crayon by a pre-schooler.
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> Bill King
> Arlington, Virginia
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> Subject: Re: The Cavalier Drumhead (Rear Tail Sign)
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> To follow my comments and Jim’s below.
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> I’ve seen photos with the Memphis Special (predecessor to the Tennessean) with a tail sign (drumheads, by nature are round) that was a box shape, and the Tennessean had some round end cars with a tail sign (I believe) but they did not come through Roanoke to my knowledge. the last Pocahontas out of Roanoke carried a painted wooden sign on the platform car, and as mentioned, the Arrow had built in tail signs on the round-end cars. 
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> I have seen a purported tail sign for the Pocahontas for sale some years back, but honestly believe it was a railfan fantasy item, not an authentic piece.
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> Ken Miller
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>> On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:49 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> The only drumhead I ever saw on an N&W train was on the 1949 Powhatan Arrow.
>> 
>> Jim Nichols
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>> On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 05:36:36 AM CDT, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> I'm trying to model N&W's passenger train, The Cavalier.  In real life, it always ran a poor third compared to The Powhatan Arrow and The Pocahontas.  I guess that's why it interests me so much.  But information about it is very hard to come by.
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>> I've found a company (Tomar Industries) on-line that makes Drumheads (or rear passenger car tail logos) of passenger trains.  The rear tail sign for The Cavalier that they offer is so unbelievably crude and childish that I can't believe it was actually used on an N&W passenger train.  I've attached a copy of the logo that they offer for everyone to inspect.
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>> I have two questions that I need answers to: Is the Cavalier drumhead offered by Tomar Industries the actual logo that N&W used?  And, if not, what did the real Cavalier drumhead look like?
>> 
>> Bill King
>> Arlington, Virginia
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