CABOOSE ROOF COLOR

[NW Modeling List]

Kevin, I wrote that many years ago - I’m glad others have found it useful on what to do (or not do - also a valid outcome). Lots of learning mistakes on that build, but I still value the finished model.

That forum started on another platform, then moved to zealot. Just in the past year, I copied all of my text out and saved it to a notes file just in case I ever forget my username or password to the site.

I used only Floquil to create my reds, so that may not be reproducible as described. However, I based it on color photos that ranged from orange red to pink red and from very faint memories of the caboose reds I saw as a kid, so that color choice was purely subjective!

Matt Goodman
Columbus Ohio US

On Jul 18, 2019, at 2:34 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

Ed,

There was a web blog page some years ago with a series of articles the author used to describe his experience building the AMB kit. I believe you will find the articles most helpful with many "do`s and don't's". See link below.

https://www.zealot.com/n-w-cf-caboose-amb-image-heavy-t155662.html <https://www.zealot.com/n-w-cf-caboose-amb-image-heavy-t155662.html>

I was several years ago at the end of a build of a GloorCraft kit and was also searching for paint color guidance. In the articles There was a suggestion of what "caboose red" color to use plus insight into roof color. All is discussed in the article. I do not avow to the accuracy of the info but it does seem to fit other info I have found. 

The author suggested that at least during the steam age the roofs were covered with sheets of canvas coated with an asphalt based roof coating material. The author continued to describe his tissue paper with brown paint coating simulation method. See page 3 of blog link.

I used his method with white tissue paper ( like used in gift bags) and brown paint and had great success. I didn't use a glue to attach the paper but made used of the paint soaked into the paper to act as a glue. I layed the strips on the roof and then painted them onto the roof. I could adjust position before it dried. I then applied the over lapping sheet and repeated the process until all was covered. I rough cut the sheet lengths so they would extend over the sides and ends. Then trimmed once the paint dried. A little touch up paint finished the job. 

I think the Gloor Craft kit came out well with this roof method and i plan to use it on my in-waiting AMB kit. 

I also have a CF brass caboose I want to refurbish from a previous owners poor paint job and use the authors techniques where applicable. It needs some undercarriage detail corrections also. 

If interested I will send pictures of my finished GloorCraft kit once I return home this weekend from vacation. 

Kevin Byrd
Chesterfield, VA


On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 9:06 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
Roof color depends on time period and lettering scheme. If you are talking steam era, the roof color is brown or near black (depending on weathering). Later paint schemes had red roofs, and some had galvanized roofs.

Jim Nichols

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 06:39:55 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:


Gentlemen - as I work on my Laserkit (#864) and GloorCraft (Kit #312) I seek your advice on the correct color of the caboose roof.  Research into the fine works by Jim Nichols (N&W In Color) and (N&W Color Guide to Freight and Psngr Equipment) reveals that most were painted black (eg 518259, 562620, 559354) but #518265 and 562723 and 557775 appear to be red.  Further complicating matters is that #559011 is some "maroon" color but this could just be the effect of rising / setting sun.  LaserKit (American Model Builders) says "roof was initially painted brown but black soon replaced that color".  GloorCraft says "the entire caboose except the handrails can be painted with Floquil R20 CABOOSE RED".

Recommendations are greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Ed Svitil
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2019, 9:06 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
Roof color depends on time period and lettering scheme. If you are talking steam era, the roof color is brown or near black (depending on weathering). Later paint schemes had red roofs, and some had galvanized roofs.

Jim Nichols

On Thursday, July 18, 2019, 06:39:55 AM EDT, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:


Gentlemen - as I work on my Laserkit (#864) and GloorCraft (Kit #312) I seek your advice on the correct color of the caboose roof.  Research into the fine works by Jim Nichols (N&W In Color) and (N&W Color Guide to Freight and Psngr Equipment) reveals that most were painted black (eg 518259, 562620, 559354) but #518265 and 562723 and 557775 appear to be red.  Further complicating matters is that #559011 is some "maroon" color but this could just be the effect of rising / setting sun.  LaserKit (American Model Builders) says "roof was initially painted brown but black soon replaced that color".  GloorCraft says "the entire caboose except the handrails can be painted with Floquil R20 CABOOSE RED".

Recommendations are greatly appreciated.  Thank you.

Ed Svitil
Member #0317 N&W Historical Society
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