PA combine question

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Thu Apr 18 10:03:47 EDT 2019

Thanks, Rick.  1506 was rescued from South Carolina and restored to
operation at Spencer Museum.  It's used as the lead car for ADA riders.
Still has the old roof; the only noticeable difference from in-service are
the 2 boxes that house batteries and motor to power the hydraulic lift gate
hidden behind the baggage door on 1 side.  It also has roller bearings
hidden inside the original solid bearing sideframes.  I was still
volunteering there when the car was going thru its restoration.  LOT of rust
removal but frame and body were in good shape despite sitting in the weather
for 50+ years.  At the time, we all thought the boxes should have been
painted black but the car had to go into service by a certain date for an
event and that was missed.  I have not seen the car lately . maybe they're
black now.


Jim King



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Subject: Re: PA combine question


This was a BPd combine.  Original N&W equipment built 1914 by Harland &

Modernized 1947-48, and I assume this is when they got the streamlined roof.
1501 to 1503 seated 44 passengers and had a short baggage compartment.  They
replaced the P1 coach-crew room car in the Powhatan Arrow consist circa
1957.  By the early 1960's the combines were replaced with a separate
baggage car and coach.  The last of the BPd's were sold for scrap in 1969.
The Arrow picked up a RPO on the west end at the time The Cavalier was cut
back to a Norfolk-Williamson train.


To model the 44 passenger BPd with the correct number of windows (13 each
side not inc rest room windows) requires kitbashing.  What sets the car
apart are the closely spaced single windows.  Using Athearn cars as a source
for a combine will produce a car looking like a BPf, built 1935 by Bethlehem
Steel.  Those were not used on the Arrow. N&W sold all of them off in 1959.


Here is a link to NWHS N&W steel car roster from build date to disposition.


--Rick Morrison


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Subject: PA combine question


I want to model the end of J service hauling the Arrow and have noticed the
original 5-car consist has the lead car replaced with combine.  Baggage cars
and (I think) an RPO were added later and that's the consist I want to
model.  I have these cars and the 5-car MTH set but the combine is mystery
to me.


Attached are 2 pix of the car I'm asking about.  What is it?  Has is been
made in HO?  If not, any suggestions as to kitbashing one?


Jim King




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