NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 183, Issue 28 N&W J-class steamers

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Fri Jul 6 21:06:31 EDT 2018


The BLI J has a plastic boiler and tender shell, but it's definitely
heavier then the Spectrum units and should track better. I've owned both
over the years. I think either the BLI or MTH will be excellent models for
the OPs needs.

Alvie H III
Lancaster PA

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>    1. Re: Looking to Replace My J Class Engine (NW Modeling List)
>    2. Re: Athearn Genesis N&W GP9 (NW Modeling List)
>    3. Re: Athearn Genesis N&W GP9 (NW Modeling List)
>    4. Re: Looking to Replace My J Class Engine (NW Modeling List)
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> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2018 15:51:48 -0400
> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> Subject: Re: Looking to Replace My J Class Engine
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> Jack,
>
> All of the J?s numbered 600-610 kept the roll-top tenders throughout their
> careers. The J?s numbered 611-613 were the only J?s with a flat tender deck
> and were never paired with a roll-top tender. I would highly suggest the
> MTH HO Class J or the BLI Class J. Both are die-cast metal and will easily
> outperform the Bachman J. The heavier weight will help it track better and
> pull heavier trains. I?d suggest looking on the aftermarket to see if you
> can find one at a decent price.
>
> Sincerely,
> Joseph Congemi
> Cell Phone: 404-374-2370
> Email: jmcongemi at comcast.net
>
> > On Jul 6, 2018, at 14:56, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > I am looking for a new J class engine.  I currently have a Bachmann J
> Class but it just does not want to stay on the rails.  It does fine in
> straight runs, but in curves (22? radius to 36? radius) it keeps
> derailing.  It also will not go up a 3% grade with a string of passenger
> cars.  All of my other steam engines and diesels do fine on my rails and
> grades.  It appears that any place the rails are not absolutely perfect, it
> will derail.  Perhaps it is too light.  I am not too bummed as I only paid
> $124 for the DCC ready engine on eBay.  I added my own decoder and sound,
> which I can always use in other steam engines.  (I guess you get what you
> pay for).
> >
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions on a good brand of J Class I can buy that, hopefully,
> will stay on my rails and pull up a 3% grade?  I have noticed that MTH
> offers J Class engines (more than I would like to pay) and they offer a
> flat tender or a rounded tender.  When was the switch from flat to round?
> Any other good brands of J Class other than MTH?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your opinions.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack Fletcher?
> >
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> Subject: Re: Athearn Genesis N&W GP9
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> Lombard Hobbies in IL has a couple of blue units left as of noon today.
> They will get a couple of more of some next week no sound redbirds.
>
>
> Mike Ritschdorff
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> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 6:26 PM
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> Subject: Re: Athearn Genesis N&W GP9
>
> Gentlemen:
> as of 1426 eastern time...
>
> DLH is all out of RedBirds, He only has BlueBirds left.
> His internet is out.
> You have to call to reach him today.
>
> Eric Raitch
> Gainesville Va
>
>
> On 2018-07-05 20:06, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List wrote:
> > In case someone is still looking to pick up one of these models, as of
> > July 5, DLH Locomotives in Springfield, Ohio (937-629-0321) has a few
> > (502, 508 with sound; 514, 520 without sound) at pretty good prices.
> > As a disclaimer, I have no financial interest in this, just trying to
> > alert NWHS members that there may be some of these models still
> > available for purchase. I've only been in it for several years but I
> > don't recall a particular model or topic creating this much discussion
> > in this email chat group!!!
> >
> > Bob Simpson (#3015)
> > St. Paris, Ohio
> >
> >  On Thursday, July 5, 2018, 6:44:08 AM EDT, NW Modeling List
> > <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Athearn announced these locomotives in February 2017 not this year. As
> > soon as they did, I put in an advanced reservation with
> > modeltrainstuff.com (M B Klein). Unfortunately when Klein updated
> > their website earlier this year they did away with advanced
> > reservations. Their only advice was to keep an eye on the Athearn
> > website to see when they were available. As soon as they showed as in
> > stock I started looking for them on modeltrainstuff.com and other
> > sites. I even checked dealers on the west coast thinking they would
> > get them first. I ordered mine from Klein the night they showed up on
> > the website.
> >
> > If you get on Athearn's mailing list they will send you new
> > announcements the beginning of each month (same with Atlas). Also the
> > mailing list for Toy Train Heaven sends a list of newly announced
> > items for the major manufacturers. Don't look for help from Walthers.
> > They have not carried Athearn since it was purchased by Horizon Hobby,
> > which is another distributer.
> >
> > Dick Dunford
> > Blacksburg VA
> >
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> Subject: Re: Athearn Genesis N&W GP9
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> Thanks for the earlier info on DLH. I called and got his last Redbird 521
> w/o sound. He said he had one each of the Bluebirds left at that time.
> About 2pm CST.
> Thanks to the poster that put me on to him! I'm forever in debt to you for
> that.
> Let's hope Athearn sees the furor over these units and chooses to re-run
> them. Hopefully some Redbirds in the first run with the 4-36" fans as well.
> I'm up for several more Redbirds.
> Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>     On Friday, July 6, 2018, 2:19:31 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>  Gentlemen:
> as of 1426 eastern time...
>
> DLH is all out of RedBirds, He only has BlueBirds left.
> His internet is out.
> You have to call to reach him today.
>
> Eric Raitch
> Gainesville Va
>
>
> On 2018-07-05 20:06, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List wrote:
> > In case someone is still looking to pick up one of these models, as of
> > July 5, DLH Locomotives in Springfield, Ohio (937-629-0321) has a few
> > (502, 508 with sound; 514, 520 without sound) at pretty good prices.
> > As a disclaimer, I have no financial interest in this, just trying to
> > alert NWHS members that there may be some of these models still
> > available for purchase. I've only been in it for several years but I
> > don't recall a particular model or topic creating this much discussion
> > in this email chat group!!!
> >
> > Bob Simpson (#3015)
> > St. Paris, Ohio
> >
> >? On Thursday, July 5, 2018, 6:44:08 AM EDT, NW Modeling List
> > <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> >
> > Athearn announced these locomotives in February 2017 not this year. As
> > soon as they did, I put in an advanced reservation with
> > modeltrainstuff.com (M B Klein). Unfortunately when Klein updated
> > their website earlier this year they did away with advanced
> > reservations. Their only advice was to keep an eye on the Athearn
> > website to see when they were available. As soon as they showed as in
> > stock I started looking for them on modeltrainstuff.com and other
> > sites. I even checked dealers on the west coast thinking they would
> > get them first. I ordered mine from Klein the night they showed up on
> > the website.
> >
> > If you get on Athearn's mailing list they will send you new
> > announcements the beginning of each month (same with Atlas). Also the
> > mailing list for Toy Train Heaven sends a list of newly announced
> > items for the major manufacturers. Don't look for help from Walthers.
> > They have not carried Athearn since it was purchased by Horizon Hobby,
> > which is another distributer.
> >
> > Dick Dunford
> > Blacksburg VA
> >
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> From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
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> Subject: Re: Looking to Replace My J Class Engine
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> Jack,
> I would suggest you check out your track before giving up on the engine. I
> have had and know many folks who run the Bachmann engines in different runs
> and have no issues with them. A 3% grade may be a stretch for most 4-8-4's
> as that long engine just isn't much for stuff like that.
> The round top tenders were #600-610. The flat top came with #611-613.?
> The only brands of J's I know of in HO are several versions by Bachmann, a
> couple runs/versions by MTH, Sunset 1st run engines (#605-610), 2nd runs by
> Sunset (#605-610 J-1 unstreamlined, Excursion #610)? Sunset did a #604 too
> but I don't remember the run. Key and Overland also did several versions of
> J's. GEM did the #605-610 many years ago as well as PFM.
> I have several Sunset 1st run J's for sale if interested. Maybe a J-1
> also....undecided! Same goes for them......never seen one that wasn't a
> great runner or had any issues.
> Roger HuberDeer Creek Locomotive Works
>
>     On Friday, July 6, 2018, 2:19:43 PM CDT, NW Modeling List via
> NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I am looking for a new J class engine.? I currently have a Bachmann J
> Class but it just does not want to stay on the rails.? It does fine in
> straight runs, but in curves (22? radius to 36? radius) it keeps
> derailing.? It also will not go up a 3% grade with a string of passenger
> cars.? All of my other steam engines and diesels do fine on my rails and
> grades.? It appears that any place the rails are not absolutely perfect, it
> will derail.? Perhaps it is too light.? I am not too bummed as I only paid
> $124 for the DCC ready engine on eBay.? I added my own decoder and sound,
> which I can always use in other steam engines.? (I guess you get what you
> pay for).
>
> ?
>
> Any suggestions on a good brand of J Class I can buy that, hopefully, will
> stay on my rails and pull up a 3% grade?? I have noticed that MTH offers J
> Class engines (more than I would like to pay) and they offer a flat tender
> or a rounded tender.? When was the switch from flat to round?? Any other
> good brands of J Class other than MTH?
>
> ?
>
> Thanks for your opinions.
>
> ?
>
> Jack Fletcher?
>
>
>
>
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