Paint color - Blue

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Fri May 31 14:27:41 EDT 2013


Thanks for reminding me Casey fixed the picture. Too much work, not enough sleep and time spent in DC will kill brain cells. 


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From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at>
Date: 31/05/2013 09:21 (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: Paint color - Blue

In the original Norfolk Southern photos of 8103, Casey had lightened the photo to highlight the black trucks, therefore causing the blue in the photo to show incorrect. In my professional opinion, Norfolk Southern got the N&W blue correct.
I do have the code for the original formula but it is no longer valid. When the paint companies recently changed their formulas many of the older colors weren't included so the original code is useless. We have run into the same problem with the N&W red.
I will try to get the new code they used for 8103 as well as what they are currently using on their business cars.
Richard D. Shell
ShellScale Decals
In a message dated 5/31/2013 8:14:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nw-modeling-list at writes:
On the now defunct Atlas Forum and his own diesel detailer forum this topic has been discussed as well, Andy Harmon uses several different shades of blue for modelling. Medium blue, B&O Enchantment blue and either of those lightened with white to suit would work well. Richard Shell has the original paint ID # and may respond with it.  The issue with the real paint that was used, as according to Andy, is that "it started fading as soon as it left the paint shop." Andy models the N&W in northern Ohio during the Pevler Blue era and has done extensive research on the motors wearing this color. He has not been able to find consistent colors even from photos taken in the same time period, same region similar paint dates, etc, etc, etc....
I do recall seeing initial photos of the 8103 when it was released from Altoona and it didn't look quite right, at least to me, but as it was in service and has flattened out and weathered it looks much more appropriate.
Russ Goodwin
Buford, GA

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> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 16:37:54 -0400

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> I am looking at doing several models on the blue paint. What is the correct color in either Floquil or Tru-color?


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