Paint color - Blue

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Fri May 31 08:56:41 EDT 2013


In the original Norfolk Southern photos of 8103, Casey had lightened the
photo to highlight the black trucks, therefore causing the blue in the photo
to show incorrect. In my professional opinion, Norfolk Southern got the N&W
blue correct.

I do have the code for the original formula but it is no longer valid. When
the paint companies recently changed their formulas many of the older
colors weren't included so the original code is useless. We have run into the
same problem with the N&W red.

I will try to get the new code they used for 8103 as well as what they are
currently using on their business cars.


Richard D. Shell
ShellScale Decals

In a message dated 5/31/2013 8:14:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
nw-modeling-list at writes:


On the now defunct Atlas Forum and his own diesel detailer forum this
topic has been discussed as well, Andy Harmon uses several different shades of
blue for modelling. Medium blue, B&O Enchantment blue and either of those
lightened with white to suit would work well. Richard Shell has the original
paint ID # and may respond with it. The issue with the real paint that
was used, as according to Andy, is that "it started fading as soon as it left
the paint shop." Andy models the N&W in northern Ohio during the Pevler
Blue era and has done extensive research on the motors wearing this color. He
has not been able to find consistent colors even from photos taken in the
same time period, same region similar paint dates, etc, etc, etc....

I do recall seeing initial photos of the 8103 when it was released from
Altoona and it didn't look quite right, at least to me, but as it was in
service and has flattened out and weathered it looks much more appropriate.

Russ Goodwin
Buford, GA

> Subject: Paint color - Blue

> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 16:37:54 -0400

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> I am looking at doing several models on the blue paint. What is the

correct color in either Floquil or Tru-color?


> Also, I have had no response on the location and type of the radio

antenna on the high hood C425's. Anyone have a clue on this one?


> Who might be coming to Winston Salem in October?


> Thanks in advance,

> James Wall

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