Virginian hoppers

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At 07:28 PM 9/4/06, you wrote:

>I didn't have anything showing that the Virginian versions were

>built in the clamshell version also [I think

>Westerfield markets it for C&O and NYC ??]


Page 19 of the Nov/Dec. 2005 Arrow has a nice broadside photo of an H-5 in 
its original configuration, sandwiched between a pair of H-4s in their 
original skirted clamshell triple hopper configuration.


>Now that said, the 1948 diagram book still shows the H-11 in

>the 4 rib 5 panel configuration.  So is there better

>info out there?


General Arrangement drawing #286-F (March 4, 1943) shows the H-11 as a 
7-rib car.

David Thompson


>Frank Bongiovanni

>

>--- nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org wrote:

>

> > At 12:49 PM 9/4/06, you wrote:

> >

> > >This is still a work in progress.  Please feel free

> > to

> > >provide corrections and/or constructive criticism.

> > Any

> > >errors are probably my own; for a change there's

> > very

> > >little ego tied up in this.

> >

> >   Just a few things off the top of my head:

> >

> > *H-11 were rebuilt with conventional 7-rib sides

> > circa 1942 (this is

> > somewhere in the AFE listings)

> > *the Athearn ribside twin is accidentally the

> > Unitcast ribside twin which

> > was the basis for the Virginian H-8 (and the postwar

> > H-12 and H-13 without

> > the cast parts)

> > *H-7 were 'early standard' hoppers, probably

> > piggybacked on a B&O N12 order

> > *there is a mysterious 'BSPX' note lurking in the

> > 1948 diagram book,

> > probably Koppers USRA twins leased to VGN for a few

> > years in the late 1920s

> > *H-5 were built with a center clamshell hopper

> > *H-1 were clones of C&O's 40-ton high-side wood

> > hoppers, built for

> > Deepwater by AC&F(?)

> > *H-2 were clones of N&W's 50-ton Seley composite

> > hoppers, built for

> > Deepwater by WSC&F in 1906

> >

> > David Thompson