PCM Y6b's

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That's true, if you can live with 51" drivers on the cookie-cutter flange 
versions, or 53.5" on the later RP25-flanged '80s version. This compared to 
57"-58" on the prototype. That's the one thing that drove me nuts about 
them, visually. That said, for the time, the detailing wasn't bad. 
Somewhere, I've got MR's 1965-66 review of the model, which praised its 
prototype fidelity, but did ding the drivers. Oh, also sawing a scale 18" or 
so from the middle of the cab helps (they made it longer to accommodate the 
original 3-pole motor).
My humble $.02

Andre Jackson and/or Lisa Burrows
Life is short; update your anti-virus software
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's



> At the risk of having things thrown at me, for the money, Rivarossi Y's 

> picked up on ebay, even if you have to remotor them and install DCC 

> decoders in them, to me are every bit as good with a couple hundred 

> dollars total investment, as the PCM $600 unit. I have five of them, and 

> while I had to seek assistance in getting the decoders in them, I found 

> some help here and managed to install two myself. I took two units to the 

> area hobby shop to do those, and I have one more to go. With some custom 

> detailing and patience, you can make a fleet of unique Y's for a LOT less 

> than the expense of that PCM unit.

>

> Bob Welsh

>

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> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:32 AM

> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>

>

>> Did anybody get the packet in the mail from PCM/BLI??? Maybe THIS is why 

>> the

>> models cost so much.  So the guy in charge worked for Lionel and Mikes 

>> Train

>> House.

>>

>> On a related topic, I too have a Bowser Challenger and it pulls great, 

>> and

>> articulates correctly.  The overhang is pretty much proto-typical, unlike

>> the A, Y3, or Y6b. The only way for the plastic models to 'look good' 

>> going

>> around curves, is for the curves to be about 60 inches in diameter, and

>> super-elevated.  Hmmm.....  So even a correctly articulated engine like a

>> Big Boy would have little overhang issues.  Apples and oranges I guess.

>>

>> Mark Lindsey

>>

>>> Bob contact Rick Bell in Augusta, Ga about installing decoders and

>>> remotoring. He is at Rwbrv4 at aol.com,  Cal Reynolds

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>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 7:16 AM

>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>

>>>

>>>> WEll I have FIVE Rivarossi Y6b's. Three are still as Y6b's, and two I 

>>>> have

>>>> are kitbashed into a Y6 and a Y4. WIth a little bit of money invested 

>>>> in

>>>> detail parts and DCC decoders I have five unique units. Now, I have had

>>>> trouble getting the DCC decoders in them so am seeking help there, but 

>>>> I

>>>> figure even remotored and with the investment I have in them, I have 

>>>> half

>>>> the investment that one of the PCM units would be, or less.

>>>>

>>>> Bob Welsh

>>>>

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>>>> To: "'N and W Modeling List'" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:08 PM

>>>> Subject: RE: PCM Y6b's

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Isn't PCM connected in some way to BLI? IF so what happened to the

>>>>> communication between the two companies. Since I heard on the list a 

>>>>> Y6b

>>>>> was

>>>>> going to be made I was really excited. Now hearing Mr. King's comments 

>>>>> on

>>>>> the Y6b, which I personally pay very close attention to all comments 

>>>>> Mr.

>>>>> King makes as well as a lot of others here on the list, I will resume 

>>>>> a

>>>>> search for a brass model and not purchase the PCM model at all. The 

>>>>> model

>>>>> railroad industry is BOOMING right now and for PCM to put out a

>>>>> substandard

>>>>> model for the price they are asking is ridiculous. I have a tight 

>>>>> model

>>>>> railroad budget and I would have been severely upset if I had 

>>>>> purchased

>>>>> this

>>>>> model and my current Rivarossi Y6b be more representative of the 

>>>>> awesome

>>>>> class of locomotive then the PCM.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Just me 2 cents worth.

>>>>> Jon Kelley

>>>>> norfolknwestern1218 at adelphia.net

>>>>>

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>>>>> [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of

>>>>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org

>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 11:57 AM

>>>>> To: N and W Modeling List

>>>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>>>

>>>>> Nigel - attached is the letter to PCM that will go in tomorrow's mail.

>>>>>

>>>>> Ed King

>>>>> ----- Original Message -----

>>>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 10:02 PM

>>>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> Hi Ed;

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Have you sent these comments to PCM?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Thank you

>>>>>> Nigel F Misso

>>>>>>

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>>>>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:25 PM

>>>>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> So I got mine yesterday, and put it on the programming track today.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Comments:  Valve gear is not acceptable.  If Proto can put 

>>>>>>> acceptable

>>>>>>> valve gear on the Y-3s, why can't these folks put it on the Y-6b? 

>>>>>>> And

>>>>>>> Broadway on the N&W A, for that matter?

>>>>>>>                     Sound is barely acceptable; the exhaust sound is

>>>>>>> confusing to say the least.  Other sounds are OK; a nice touch is 

>>>>>>> the

>>>>>>> splash of water from the injector overflow after the injector shuts

>>>>>>> off.

>>>>>>>                     Programming is OK.

>>>>>>>                     Power - not acceptable.  My Broadway 1218 will

>>>>>>> shove

>>>>>>> the Y-6b right off the test track without slipping a driver (I 

>>>>>>> haven't

>>>>>>> tested it against my Y-3s).  The Y-6b will not budge the A if the A 

>>>>>>> is

>>>>>>> not under power.

>>>>>>>                     Tender is heavy all right, but I guess that's

>>>>>>> because

>>>>>

>>>>>>> of the big speaker.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Ed King

>>>>>>>

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>>>>>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 9:22 AM

>>>>>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> There, there, David.  Everything's gonna be OK.  Let not your heart 

>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>> troubled . . .

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> EdKing

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>>>>>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:41 AM

>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: PCM Y6b's

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> It's probably my imagination, but....

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Is there something proportionately off about the front

>>>>>>>>> end of PCM's Y6b?  All the individual parts are great,

>>>>>>>>> but the front view on the website doesn't look right.

>>>>>>>>> Is the headlight a bit too high?  The Y6b bracket was

>>>>>>>>> different from the other Y6's and the headlight was

>>>>>>>>> located lower relative to the number plate.  Gave the

>>>>>>>>> Y6b a less squatty appearance from  the front.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm just having a rivet-counter relapse.  Try to

>>>>>>>>> keep it under control but don't always succeed.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Dave Stephenson

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

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