nw-modeling-list at nw-modeling-list at
Wed Feb 8 08:16:32 EST 2006

This car was rostered as NW 6 listed as a poling car, a term held over
from the steam era when such things were done. It stayed on the roster
for many years as the only example. I am not just when it left the
roster, sometime in the mid to late 1980s, I believe. It was used in
its last years as a rider car for the Roanoke Shop switcher crew as
they had a lot of getting on and off to handle cars. It was much easier
to get on and off of this car than a unit, and cheaper to have than a
caboose. The baby trainmaster hood was added sometime in the 1960s, I
believe, and in its last years, someone had decorated the top of the
hood with 2 wooden hobby horses. You could frequently see this car
stored east of the car shops along Campbell Avenue, especially
weekends, when the crew was off.

I don't think I have ever seen photos of any of NW 1-5, and certainly
never saw them myself

Ken Miller
On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:32 PM, nw-modeling-list at wrote:

>> Not a BBQ car; that is the N&W locomotive potty hopper remote

>> service car. The "W" used it in Roanoke to collect and incinerate

>> the potty hopper bags from yard and road units tied down around

>> Roanoke and unable to make it in to Shaffer's Crossing for

>> emptying for one reason or another. The remaining "black ashe"

>> was the primary constituent in their locomotive paint, often

>> referred to as the color "Stove Black". Seriously, what else

>> would the "W" do with all those white plastic bags full 'o........?


>> Another source has it as a homemade shoving platform constructed

>> on a tender frame with a FM H16-44 short hood as a shelter for

>> the crew. I shot it in Rowin' Oak back in the 1970's. The outdoor

>> stove was always an interesting detail; probably gave off way too

>> much heat to stand it inside that empty nose.



> A friend in Roanoke who knows lots of retired N&W employees showed the

> picture around and got the following explanation:


> My source, a retired N&W conductor, said it looked like a crew car

> used on hump yards. He said that before the automation of retarders,

> etc. on the hump yard, railworkers had to ride the cars down the hump

> to brake the car. At the bottom they needed a ride back up the hump

> and this crew car provided warmth, the outside stove, and shelter, the

> covered area on the right in the pic, in case of cold, severe, wet,

> etc., weather. He did find it curious that it was between two motors

> however.


> Ross Hunter

> Orange, VA<7a8c.jpg>________________________________________

> NW-Modeling-List at

> To change your subscription go to


More information about the NW-Modeling-List mailing list