Otto Perry Photos

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Why not just report the seller to eBay?  They will take him down. 

Tom Lewis

> On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:41 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> Rob
> 
> I completely agree with you. I did the same in Roanoke at the Jolly Roger Haggle Shop, which had 4x8 sheets of plywood on sawhorses for tables, and at least one table was full of old N&W Magazines, another had model magazines. I love my magazines as well, and only in recent months have begun to starting to dispose of them.
> 
> I ordered one of the prints the ebay seller offered, on November 2nd, and I am waiting to see what actually shows up. But I am betting what is being done is the seller (who has at this moment, almost 602,000 photo offerings on eBay including, I’d guess, images out of the N&WHS collection as part of them) is doing screen grabs or image downloads and simply getting them printed and shipped out. I am suspecting inkjet prints, not actual photographic prints, but will post a follow-up. 
> 
> Even though the Denver library has copyright, this seller is based in Australia, making legal action expensive if not downright impossible. It reminds me of a letter I got close to 35 years ago from a person building a live steam model of an N&W Class A in Australia. He had paid Mark Faville over $1,500 for a set of prints, which was about 400 as I recall, and more later. Faville apparently printed him about 80 prints, and decided that was all he wanted to fool with. I told them man I was sorry, I had no connection to Faville, but I knew he was hard to deal with, and the only thing that might get his attention was legal action, which, again, was difficult with the international borders. I never heard if he pursued anything or not. I really felt sorry for the man, sending that much money and getting less than 1/4 of what you had paid for. 
> 
> The seller is certainly taking advantage of skirting the law here and most certainly is selling ink jet prints, not actual darkroom prints.
> 
> Best
> Ken Miller
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2023, at 9:08 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I completely agree. I guess most of us are old enough to remember real
>> magazine stands / stores. In my case it was a long narrow shop in downtown
>> Newport News near the shipyard. In the late '60s and early '70s that dingy
>> place must have stocked thousands of titles. I would save up my allowance
>> for weeks to spend it there, and would return home with a big stack of
>> magazines and comic books. I love magazines. My attitude is that if you like
>> a magazine at all, buy a subscription to it if you can afford to. 
>> 
>> The public library was a big part of my youth too. My parents were avid
>> readers and they taught me to read before I started first grade. My Dad took
>> me to see a silent movie at the Main Street branch library when I was maybe
>> 12 and that spurred a life long obsession with silent films. That's why the
>> guy on eBay selling prints of Otto Perry photos annoys me. The Denver Public
>> Library's digital collections web site is quite clear that their photos can
>> be licensed for commercial use for a fee but proper credit must be stated.
>> Maybe the eBay seller is legit, or maybe he's ripping off the library, I
>> don't know. But an alternative to buying from eBay is purchasing a digital
>> file from the Denver library and having your local Staples make a high
>> quality print. 
>> 
>> Rob Doorack
>> Guilford, CT
> 
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