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A couple of points from a connoisseur.

They weren't placed by a car, they come with the car.  If your look at the drawing one box came with each PM, P1, P2 and P3 car.  Why not one for the P4s? No vestibule.

This drawing is of two piece aluminum one.  It has a separate top attached from the bottom with screws.  There is an N&W drawing of just the top.  I was hopping it would have a logo, but it only has the basic waffle top.  Morton was one manufacturer but another was Mag-Liner that did make single piece castings in magnesium.  Another popular style was made from stamped sheet metal.

They belonged to the car, woe be to a porter or car attendant that left one at a station.

The current Amtrak model has a much larger stamped metal top and has tubular legs.

Stoney
Rick C Stone 
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> And....Rapido makes them in HO scale!
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> https://rapidotrains.com/rapido-bits-ho-scale-passenger-car-step-boxes-yellow-pack-of-4.html
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> Jim Brewer
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> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:45 PM James Brewer <jim.brewer.3611 at gmail.com>
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> > Here is a promotional image, but I'm almost certain they were used at most
> > stations in passenger service.
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> > Jim Brewer
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> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:38 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <
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> >> I worked on the extra board out of Williamson and caught the passenger
> >> run to Roke in 1967. We had a step box on that run.
> >> As to color it was the same red as the passenger coaches (tuskin red?)
> >> and the top was black. There was some gold lettering on it but I don?t
> >> remember what it was.
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> >> Larry Reed
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> >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022, 10:32 AM, NW Mailing List <
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> >> They were not used just at Crewe. I can remember seeing step boxes used
> >> at stations with platforms. That first step is pretty high for some people.
> >> The portable step boxes were pretty much standard in the 1940's and '50's.
> >> And, I think I remember, not just on the N&W.
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> >> Jim Nichols
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> >> Yes - they were used at Crewe for all passenger trains that I saw in the
> >> 50's and 60's:  Nos 7-8, 25-26, 3-4, 15-16.  They are all the ones that I
> >> was familiar with. I rode on 7-8 as a child and 3-4 later.
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> >> William M (Bill) Mason
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> The stepbox in the photo is most likely a Pullman one and I think they were painted yellow.  I do not believe I have ever seen one from the N&W but I would assume they had them.
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> Ron Muldowney
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> Here is a promotional image, but I'm almost certain they were used at most stations in passenger service.
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> https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=108319
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> Jim Brewer
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> On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:38 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>   I worked on the extra board out of Williamson and caught the passenger run to Roke in 1967. We had a step box on that run.  
>   As to color it was the same red as the passenger coaches (tuskin red?) and the top was black. There was some gold lettering on it but I don?t remember what it was.
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>   Larry Reed
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>     They were not used just at Crewe. I can remember seeing step boxes used at stations with platforms. That first step is pretty high for some people. The portable step boxes were pretty much standard in the 1940's and '50's. And, I think I remember, not just on the N&W.
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>     Jim Nichols
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>     On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 01:36:28 AM CDT, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote: 
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>     Yes - they were used at Crewe for all passenger trains that I saw in the
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>     50's and 60's:  Nos 7-8, 25-26, 3-4, 15-16.  They are all the ones that I
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>     was familiar with. I rode on 7-8 as a child and 3-4 later.
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>     William M (Bill) Mason 
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> Thanks Jim
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> Those are Pullman step boxes, painted yellow with black or aluminum tops. 
> 
> They were made by the Morton company for a number of places. The Pullman ones, and many other railroad ones were embossed with the name. This is one design, there is another that was one piece cast aluminium, but still heavy.
> 
> 
> I?ve never seen an N&W marked one. There were usually one placed with each car with a vestibule not at stations. The N&W may have had the initials painted on, but this drawing does not specify as such, as they were made of aluminum, and no specifications for paint are listed.
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> The design shown above is pretty much the same design used today by Amtrak out of sheet metal with an embossed top to be non-slip. 
> 
> I know that back in the 1980s, NS had Roanoke foundry cast NS ones with the NS stripe logo on the top for the business cars, they were, I believe, aluminum, but painted tuscan with gold lettering and the car name or number painted on the sides.
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> Best
> Ken Miller
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> > On Oct 18, 2022, at 1:45 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> > Here is a promotional image, but I'm almost certain they were used at most stations in passenger service.
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> > https://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=108319
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> > Jim Brewer
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> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 1:38 PM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> > I worked on the extra board out of Williamson and caught the passenger run to Roke in 1967. We had a step box on that run. 
> > As to color it was the same red as the passenger coaches (tuskin red?) and the top was black. There was some gold lettering on it but I don?t remember what it was.
> > 
> > Larry Reed
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> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
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> > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022, 10:32 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> > They were not used just at Crewe. I can remember seeing step boxes used at stations with platforms. That first step is pretty high for some people. The portable step boxes were pretty much standard in the 1940's and '50's. And, I think I remember, not just on the N&W.
> > 
> > Jim Nichols
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> > On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 01:36:28 AM CDT, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> > Yes - they were used at Crewe for all passenger trains that I saw in the
> > 50's and 60's:  Nos 7-8, 25-26, 3-4, 15-16.  They are all the ones that I
> > was familiar with. I rode on 7-8 as a child and 3-4 later.
> > 
> > William M (Bill) Mason 
> > wmmason at verizon.net
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