Caboose question

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I repeat, they ALL had propane tanks for heat!!!Jimmy LisleSent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at> Date: 11/27/21  9:24 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: nw hist <nw-mailing-list at> Subject: Re: Caboose question  It also answers the question of theLP tank and generator installation, truck mounted generator would not have a LP tank.On Nov 27, 2021, at 09:10, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at> wrote:
    On 11/26/2021 10:52 PM, NW Mailing List
      From just these two responses and what I have found
        the questions I now have are:
      1.  What determined if the C31P got the LP tank on
        the under frame, I have seen pictures with and without that are
        random, 555630 is one     	 without.
      2.  The numbering were the C31’s all in the 518000
        series and C31P’s 555000 series?  The numbers seem random and
        mixed with C32P      	 numbers.
      3.  When was the change in the truck generator?  The
        one drawing I found in the archives shows 1979, revised 1981 for
        the Dayco generator                	drive.
        Would the Caboose book help me in additional info? 
          One thing that you need to keep in mind is that the C31P &
      C32P cabs as built are not the same as today. For whatever reason,
      NS has mixed and matched the numbers around so as who knows what
      is what anymore. 
      That said, all of the C31P cabs were numbered 518XXX and all of
      the C32P cabs were numbered 555XXX.
      The LP tanks were already on the C31 cabs when they went to be
      converted as they were heated and with propane. The lights were
      even propane.
      C32P cabs were brand new from the factory and came with
      C31 cabs got their generators when they were converted to the "P"
      spec. What kind it was? We didn't give a long as it
      Yes, the caboose book is a good book. Very useful. However, one
      thing does stick out in my mind. It seems to me that the book
      makes a reference to the C31 cabs being converted to the "P" spec
      before the C32P cabs arrived. This is not true. The paperwork may
      have been done, but, the C32P cabs arrived on the scene before the
      C31P cabs made it out of the shed.
    A couple of thoughts. They C32P cabs came with high back bucket
      seats. These seats had the ability to flip over so you could
      always be seated in the direction of travel. Now, while some of
      you may think that these seats were a cool thing to have in a cab,
      they were uncomfortable because of the angle of the seatback and
      the padding in the head area.
      The "P" cabs also were equipped with very strong stainless steel
      screens for the windows. Yes, they would keep out a thrown rock,
      but, they also kept out a lot of the breeze needed to keep cool on
      hot days. As the screens were considered a safety feature and if
      you got caught with them open, some fool supervisors used that as
      an excuse to write you up!
      The C31 cabs with their coil springs (I don't understand why they
      had them in stead of leaf springs in the first place) could ride
      quite stiff at times. We had one conductor that would have you get
      some oil out of a car that had a plain journal box. He would then
      put the oil on only one side of the truck frame where the bolster
      slid. This would help the ride. Now, if you happened to oil both
      sides by mistake, then things really got bouncy!
    Jimmy Lisle
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