N&W Passenger train consists

Tue Jun 30 21:21:30 EDT 2020

A follow-up question regarding the consists.  I have an N&W Consist List of
March 15, 1954.  Train #3 has (4) PM Coaches up front, and (1) Coach in the
rear.  What would the difference be between a PM Coach and a Coach?

--- Vic Chudoba

From: NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org> On Behalf Of NW
Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 8:20 PM
To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: N&W Passenger train consists

The Norfolk-New York sleeper was routed on N&W's Cannonball #21-22 Norfolk
to Richmond via Petersburg.  From Petersburg to Richmond the train ran on
ACL tracks, but with N&W power all the way to Richmond.  The train, sleeper
and a coach, actually terminated in Richmond.  The sleeper was handled to
Washington in an RF&P train, thence to New York in a PRR train. The last
timetable with the New York sleeper was April 24,1966.  By the next
timetable October 30, 1966 the through coach to Richmond was still running.
In the April 1967 time 21-22 were gone, but the timetable showed a
connection at Petersburg for Richmond via The Pocahontas #3-4, but you had
to take a taxi to get from the N&W station to the ACL station.  Overnight
travel time New York-Richmond was 11 to 12 hours.  For many years 21-22 ran
combined with main line trains 15-16 between Norfolk and Petersburg. At
stations where there were moves from one railroad/train to the other an
average of an hour was taken up for that.

--Rick Morrison

 Original Message ----- 

From: NW Mailing List <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>  

To: 'NW Mailing List' <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 7:53 PM

Subject: RE: N&W Passenger train consists

So many wonderful and informative replies!  Thank you one and all!  Now I
understand how an NYC sleeper ended up in a consist on the video I have.
With regard to the Norfolk-New York run, what was the routing from Norfolk
to Washington, D.C.?

--- Vic Chudoba

From: NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org
<mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org> > On Behalf Of NW Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2020 4:37 PM
To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org
<mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> >
Subject: Re: N&W Passenger train consists

Even before 1966, the through Pocahontas sleeper and coach to Chicago were
gone. When extra sleeping cars were needed on any route, Pullman would
supply what was available and not necessarily one from the home road. The
last N&W sleeping car inter-line route was Norfolk-New York, and I think
that ended about 1964.  This doesn't include the Southern run throughs
between Lynchburg and Bristol. 

--Rick Morrison 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: NW Mailing List <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>  

To: 'NW Mailing List' <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>  

Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2020 12:19 PM

Subject: N&W Passenger train consists

Looking through N&W time tables from 1966, I am trying to understand more
clearly the consists of the "The Powhatan Arrow" and "The Pocahontas", and
especially the sleeping cars that might be included.  A video which I have
seen, shows some PRR and NYC sleepers in N&W trains.  #25 had a connection
in Cincinnati that went on to Chicago, perhaps with a PRR sleeper?
Assistance would be appreciated!

Vic Chudoba

Woodstock, IL

  _____  

________________________________________
NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org <mailto:NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org> 
To change your subscription go to
http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list
Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at
http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/

  _____  

________________________________________
NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org <mailto:NW-Mailing-List at nwhs.org> 
To change your subscription go to
http://list.nwhs.org/mailman/options/nw-mailing-list
Browse the NW-Mailing-List archives at
http://list.nwhs.org/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://pairlist6.pair.net/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/attachments/20200630/dd1d189f/attachment.html>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.gif
Type: image/gif
Size: 70 bytes
Desc: not available
URL: <https://pairlist6.pair.net/pipermail/nw-mailing-list/attachments/20200630/dd1d189f/attachment.gif>