Lightweight Coaches

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The Soho brass models were labeled as 1001, the PM class, and 1009,
the P3 class. With the steps welded down and no skirts, they actually
make great starting points for modeling the cars that went into
excursion or business fleet service, although you would still have to
replace the missing door. 
Marty Flick

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Subject: Re: Lightweight Coaches

Roger:

 I think the following will answer your questions.

 As passenger service was winding down, there was a need for commuter
cars in Chicago, so the oldest cars that would not have been
refurbished or needed for the Pocahontas were converted by Roanoke
Shops”

 1001 former PM Coach 1720, converted to commuter car, 04-09-1970
 1002 former PM Coach 1721, converted to commuter car, 04-23-1970
 1003 former PM Coach 1722, converted to commuter car, 02-11-1970
 1004 former PM Coach 1723, converted to commuter car, 03-12-1970
 1005 former PM Coach 1724, converted to commuter car,12-11-1969
 1006 former PM Coach 1730, converted to commuter car, 03-26-1970
 1007 former PM Coach 1732, converted to commuter car, 11-07-1969
 1008 former PM Coach 1734, converted to commuter car, 02-25-1970
 1009 former P3 Coach 537, converted to commuter car, 02-13-1975
 1010 former P3 Coach 534, converted to commuter car, 10-03-1979

 The 1009 was donated to Roanoke Chapter NRHS in fall of 1980,
restored originally as a 70 seat open window coach for excursion
service in 1983-84 and renumbered 537, restored to a/c coach about
1990. Just completed a full overhaul and renovation in 2014-2019,
ready for service. See photo in the Arrow 35-4. When we received the
1009, it was really abused in and out, the windows, if you can call
them that, were plexiglass that you could not see three feet outside,
the seats had all been made as non-reclining, and the restrooms had
been removed to add seats to bring it to either 80 or 82 seats.

 Many of the others survive, in some form or another, none, to my
knowledge, in operating condition.

 The brass models, if I recall correctly, were 1009 and 1010, with
open vestibules, as the cars had been removed for commuter service.

 Ken Miller

 > On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List 
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 > The cars that went to Chicago commuter service were renumbered into
the 1000 series. In HO scale SOHO made models of 1001 and 1009. Which
cars were they in pre-merger days (1964)? They are sometimes listed as
P-3 class for sale but I thought they were PM cars in the 1700 series.
Anyone have better information that would help?
 > 
 > Thanks! 
 > 
 > Roger Huber
 > Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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