James M. Barr
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The April 6, 1901 issue of The Topeka State Journal (Topeka, KS) with a date line of Richmond, VA, announced that Barr was leaving the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe to be the Vice President and General Manager of the Seaboard Airline Railway. He took up his new position on May 1st. By August of 1904 he was President and General Manager. He resigned from the Seaboard Airline Railway effective May 1, 1906. R.P.C. Sanderson was already employed by the N & W when Barr joined the road. Later when Barr went to Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe he hired several men from the N & W, Sanderson being one of them. About thirty days after Barr resigned from the A.T.& S.F. R.R., Sanderson also resigned. Several months after Barr started at the Seaboard Airline Rwy he again hired Sanderson. When Barr left the Seaboard, Sanderson accepted the position as the first superintendent of motive power for the newly forming road, The Virginian.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Drawing for CPL signals and signal bridges. (NW Mailing List)
2. Pocahontas Branch on Pocahontas Division (NW Mailing List)
3. WHO WERE THEY ? -- #76 -- James M. Barr - N&W
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4. RE: Pocahontas Branch on Pocahontas Division (NW Mailing List)
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Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:14:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Drawing for CPL signals and signal bridges.
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Eric,If you do find drawings for N&W signals I'm sure there are others on this list that would be interested.? I know I would be.Thanks.?Josh Blevins?Charlotte, NC
On Monday, October 15, 2018 9:52 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Let me see if I have any Bob. If not, I'll try to get my hands on some drawing for you.
Eric DavisColumbus District
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 8:58 PM NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Well, I thought my name was always added by my email program, clearly an error on my part.
?So where does one get the PRR plans?
Bob Huston
On Oct 14, 2018 5:36 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
The signal diagram book will not provide the type of data you need for your project.
Since the N&W PL?s are of US&S Penney design, is use the Pennsy PL structural diagrams as your guide.
Eric DavisColumbus District
By the way, aren?t we supposed to be signing our emails? I did not see your name good sir...
Eric
On Oct 13, 2018, at 13:47, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Thanks, just ordered it.
On Oct 12, 2018 9:22 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
Have you consulted the N&W Signal Diagrams book that is published by the society?? Third book up from the bottom.? http://www.nwhs.org/commissary/books-nwhs.html?Thanks.?Todd Arnett?From: NW-Mailing-List [mailto:nw-mailing-list-bounces at nwhs.org] On Behalf Of NW Mailing List
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Subject: Drawing for CPL signals and signal bridges.?I would like to 3d print some signal heads and poles and bridges Can someone point me towards drawings. I don't seem to have any in the stuff I have.
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Subject: Pocahontas Branch on Pocahontas Division
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Hey Folks,
I am looking for some general information about the Pocahontas Branch Line
that ran from near Bluestone through Pocahontas, VA and terminated just
past Boissevan, VA. This is the former Pocahontas and Western RR acquired
by the N&W in the 1910's. It is near Bluestone where it connected to the
Pocahontas Division Main Line.
I have a Stations and Sidings listing from 1960 and the branch is still
listed in it. However, current google maps only show remnants of the track
roadbed but no visible track. Recent second hand observations indicate the
track is no longer.
My question ... when did the N&W abandon this line? When were the tracks
pulled up? Are the old Pocahontas Coal Co. stores still standing in either
town (Pocahontas and Boissevain). I assume the coal tipples are long gone.
Thanks!
Kevin Byrd
Chesterfield, VA
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Subject: RE: Pocahontas Branch on Pocahontas Division
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An excerpt from by new book ?The Norfolk & Western in West Virginia ~ 1881 ? 1959? on the Pocahontas & Western:
The Western Branch
After the N&W acquired the Iaeger & Southern and
South West Virginia Railroad Company charters
in 1901, which gave the railroad a right-of-way
from Iaeger on the main line, up the Dry Fork
to the mouth of Jacobs Fork, and up Jacobs Fork
to Horsepen Creek, the N&W began considering
a alternative route from Iaeger to Bluefield. (See
pages 158-161)
The N&W performed surveys of the Tug Fork,
Clear Fork and Dry Fork in 1901 and 1902, and
produced six alternative routes between Iaeger
and Bluefield. Three routes went up the Dry Fork,
Jacobs Fork, Horsepen Creek through Low Gap and
Harmons Gap to Abbs Valley; one route went up
Dry Fork and Beech Creek to Indian Creek and then
down Indian Creek to Cedar Bluff and a connection
with the Clinch Valley Line.
On May 4, 1904, the Iaeger & Southern
stockholders voted to extend the railroad from Low
Gap to the West Virginia/Virginia state line near
Harmons Gap in McDowell County.
The Pocahontas & Western Railroad Company
was chartered in Virginia on May 12, 1904, by N&W
personnel. The plan was to build from the junction
of Coal Creek and Laurel Creek at Pocahontas (MP
N-375.65) along Laurel Creek to Harmons Gap and
connect with the Iaeger & Southern, a distance of 8.3
miles. Contractor Boxley, Gibson, Waugh & Company
was awarded a contract on June 21, 1905 for the
grading and masonry of the first 3.7 miles of the
Pocahontas & Western.
The N&W?s June 30, 1906 Annual Report
noted that work was underway on 3.7 miles up
Laurel Creek to the Boissevain Operation of the
Pocahontas Collieries Company. The June 30,
1907 Annual Report stated, The Pocahontas and
Western Railroad Company completed and put into
operation 2.90 miles of its railroad in May, 1907,
to the coal tipple of the Boissevain Operation of
the Pocahontas Consolidated Collieries Company,
Inc., and on June 30th, 1907, a total of 3.12 miles
of track had been laid...? Boxley, Gibson, Waugh &
Company was paid $130,157.93 for its contract work,
which included building 18 bridges from 45 feet to
125 feet long.
Boxley, Gibson & Waugh was awarded a second
contract on November 28, 1906, to extend the
Pocahontas & Western by 3.81 miles. The N&W?s
June 30, 1907 Annual Report continued, ?... Grading
is in progress on 3.81 miles above the present
end of track to the Thorne Coal Operation of the
Pocahontas Consolidated Collieries Company, Inc.
The N&W?s June 30, 1908 Annual Report stated,
?At date of June 30th, 1908, the operated length of
the Pocahontas and Western Railroad was 3.29 miles
of main line and 1.13 miles of sidings. Work upon the
extension to the Thorne Operation of the Pocahontas
Consolidated Collieries Company, Inc., a distance of
3.81 miles above Boissevain, was temporarily stopped
in November, 1907, upon which date the roadbed was
about 70 per cent completed.
The work on the Pocahontas & Western was never
restarted as the coal company decided to build their
coal operation at Jenkinjones on the Tug Fork Branch,
rather than at Thorne. Its operating length remained
at 3.29 miles with 2.31 miles of sidings. Boxley,
Gibson & Waugh was paid $108, 612.20 for its work
on extending the railroad toward Thorne, Virginia.
On April 29th, 1910, the N&W purchased the
railroad, property and franchises of the Pocahontas
and Western Railroad Company and began operating
it as the Western Branch. The total cost of the
Pocahontas & Western to the N&W was $414,172.15.
The original Pocahontas Colliery was closed on
October 13, 1955, The Boissevain Colliery operated
into the 1960s.
Anyone interested in the 496-page book, shipping around Nov 1, contact me at aschust2 at comcast.net
Alex Schust
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Subject: Pocahontas Branch on Pocahontas Division
Hey Folks,
I am looking for some general information about the Pocahontas Branch Line that ran from near Bluestone through Pocahontas, VA and terminated just past Boissevan, VA. This is the former Pocahontas and Western RR acquired by the N&W in the 1910's. It is near Bluestone where it connected to the Pocahontas Division Main Line.
I have a Stations and Sidings listing from 1960 and the branch is still listed in it. However, current google maps only show remnants of the track roadbed but no visible track. Recent second hand observations indicate the track is no longer.
My question ... when did the N&W abandon this line? When were the tracks pulled up? Are the old Pocahontas Coal Co. stores still standing in either town (Pocahontas and Boissevain). I assume the coal tipples are long gone.
Thanks!
Kevin Byrd
Chesterfield, VA
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