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Hi John,

Any use of the catenary on the Clinch Valley predates recollections I've 
heard. My best guess is that it was used earlier for electric helper 
service to assist eastbounds up Bluefield Hill (1.22%). The eastbound 
could stop short of the signal and crossing(s) at Furnace for the helper 
to approach from the siding or from CV Junction. For this same grade, 
main line eastbounds would pick up an electric pusher at Pinhook, but 
this lasted until the end of electrification in 1950. For better 
utilization, the helper on the Valley side could have been cut off 
earlier when the run of Valley pushers out of Richlands was extended 
past the shove up to Tip Top (1.0%), going down to Furnace and up into 
Bluefield Yard.

Grant Carpenter

On 9/12/2017 3:47 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> Except that they never had to turn the electrics, since the double 
> units had a cab on each end.
>
> Jim Nichols
>
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:20 PM, NW Mailing List 
> <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
> John Garner asked:
> > Anyone know how far and why catenary was extended down the CV line?
>
> According to N&W Engineering Dept. drawing 10672A (NWHS Archives drawing
> HS-CC10898) ( http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=136771 ),
> in 1920 electrification ended right at milepost N367 (CV367 today), at 
> the end
> of Montgomery St., which was before the west end of the siding was 
> reached.
> As the drawing was created for extending the siding to the west, the 
> drawing
> is unclear on whether the sidings were electrified or just the main track.
> It does show a few electrification poles on the south side of the tracks
> opposite ones on the north side, which is suggestive but not conclusive.
>
> Looking at this photo, which is looking in the opposite direction than the
> photo that started this discussion, it appears the siding was not 
> electrified,
> at least by the late 1940s. Whether the siding was previusly 
> electrified at
> some point is still undetermined.
> http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=70516
>
> > Was the Graham wye still in at the time of initial electrification?
>
> According to N&W Engineering Dept. drawing 10063A (NWHS Archives drawing
> HS-G00133), ( http://www.nwhs.org/archivesdb/detail.php?ID=146988 ), the
> Graham wye existed and was (already) electrified in 1923.
>
> This wye was presumably the only place the railroad had to turn the 
> electrics
> under their own power when needed, at least until the electrification was
> extended to Iaeger.
>
> Joe Shaw

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