Shenandoah Division question

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     Rick has pretty much filled in all the details. At Hagerstown the 
geeps were taken off and a single PRR E unit handled the train 
northward.  We used to take my grandfather's brother,  Uncle Edgar (a 
Lutheran minister in the Philly area) to Berryville to take the train. 
You bought your berth in advance.  I believe they used a 12-1 ex-Pullman 
in the late 40's but then switched to the 10-6 sleepers.

     I have been hoping Walters would get around to making these 10-6 
cars, as they have done every other possibility.

Mason Cooper


On 7/21/2017 12:07 PM, NW Mailing List wrote:
> The trains operated as PRR 645 and 638 between Hagerstown and 
> Harrisburg. The last steam operation on trains 1 and 2 was February 
> 19, 1957.  K2 129 powered the last southbound train.
>
> There was always an engine change at Hagerstown.  It worked that even 
> after the switch to diesels.  PRR dropped 645 and 638 January 25, 1962 
> leaving no link to Harrisburg.  N&W dropped 1 and 2 north of 
> Waynesboro May 19, 1962. N&W 1 and 2 pretty much were the consist all 
> the way to Harrisburg except for the postal-baggage car being cut out 
> at Hagerstown.  In 1958 after the tracks thru Hagerstown were elevated 
> to eliminate crossings, the postal-baggage ran unmanned on to 
> Harrisburg.  For years a PRR B60 baggage ran as a sealed storage mail 
> car Harrisburg-Roanoke.  That ended in 1958-9. In May 1957 PRR stopped 
> handling REA shipments on 645 and 638, and instead trucked REA to 
> stations on their line.
>
> As far as sleeper operation, every time I rode or saw 1 and 2 in the 
> 1950's the sleeper was a Budd S1. I have seen a photo of a PRR sleeper 
> in UP colors on one of these trains in Roanoke.  I also recall two 
> occasions seeing a second sleeper on the train.  One time on a very 
> late northbound train was an ACL car besides the N&W car.  The rarest 
> car I saw in the consist was an SP heavyweight 6 compartment 3 drawing 
> room car.
>
> --Rick Morrison
>
>
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>> I am currently gathering information on the sleeper car service 
>> provided by the PRR and the N&W in the New York City to Roanoke 
>> route.   Part of the article describes the service in October 1961 
>> and the equipment that typically would have been included on those 
>> trains, which were PRR #645 and #638 along with N&W Trains #1 and 
>> #2.  Is this accurate?
>>
>> Also, does anyone know when the N&W switched from steam to diesel 
>> power on Trains #1 and #2?
>>
>> Thanks for your help,
>>
>> Chuck Bender
>> <abcdbend at comcast.net>
>> Treasurer
>> Cumberland Valley Chapter NRHS
>>
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