Train Bell 872 and William E. Warden

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Regarding your inquiry about Bill Warden, I did have the privilege of knowing him, but not as a close friend. I was fortunate enough for Bill to use several photos from my collection in some of his publications.
 
That said, Bill was a great photographer, who photographed much of the end of steam, particularly in the Virginia's. Besides articles and photo contributions to the rail magazines through the years, Bill also had published at least a half dozen titles, that I can think of, mainly on the N&W. These include one on N&W's Y Class 2-8-8-2's, one on N&W passenger trains,1946-1971, one on N&W dieselization, one on N&W "A" & "J" class locomotives, one on the BC&G RR in WV, and.another, I believe his last, on West Virginia logging railroads.
 
Bill passed away in February 1994.
 
Jeff Sanders
 

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From: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Train Bell 872 and William E. Warden
To: "NW Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>
Date: Monday, February 21, 2011, 5:04 PM





List
 
   Just to satisfy everyone's curiosity I  talk to Daniel last night to inform him that he has 
a Lima Locomotive Bell from a Shay. I had sent his pictures to several other collectors
and to my surprise turned up three identity bells with the same pattern number all from
Lima Shays there was a couple other tell tell signs that it came from a Shay. One being
the flat bottom on the cradle the Shays had a separate peace that fit between the cradle and the
boiler . One of the three bells is on display in the window at the Cass Store in Cass WV
 
Larry Evans
Kenova, WV
 
 
 
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Daniel 
 
    It still may be possible to identify the railroad and or locomotive from which it came but
need more information. Is there any numbers stamp on the bronze part of the bell? If
this were a Baldwin Loco bell there will be stamped a series of numbers on the very top of the bell (bronze part)
I mean the part under the counter wait (Ball on top) you would have to remove it to see the number. Its called
the Baldwin Code and can identify it down to the particular locomotive. 872 is just a pattern number
but may be compared to other known bells in other collections . Don't  assume that its C&O or Sou.
just because it was found in Charlottesville Va. these things get around I found an N&W bell in Salt Lake
City UT.last year. You can tell that this is a very early bell possibly before 1900 due to all the rings and
turnings on the outside or the bell. You may want to try this site for further help   http://www.railroadiana.org/
I have sent your photos to several other collector who might be able to help.
 
Larry Evans
Kenova, W.Va.
 
 
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Would it be possible, Gordon, to find the locomotive that the bell came from?
 

H. Daniel Winter III
435 Willwood Drive
Earlysville, VA 22936
434-989-9313
 


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The number 872 cast on the stand is almost certainly the pattern number for that piece.  It would be the same for all locomotives that use that particular stand.

 

Gordon Hamilton


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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:17 AM

Subject: Train Bell 872 and William E. Warden

 
I have recently found some items that I would like to obtain some additional information and/or advice as to where I might seek more information.  First I have located a bell from an unknown locomotive.  I have attached three photographs of the bell, number 872 on outside top.  As I live near Charlottesville and know that the original owner probably obtained the bell here, could I assume that this is from either a Southern or C & O locomotive? 
 
The other find are several original photographs of steam locomotives and trains signed by William E. Warden.  The photos that I have are Southern and C & O.  I have been able to do some research online and have found some information about him, but I wonder if there is anyone on the list who knew him and is familiar with his books and photos?
 
I would greatly appreciate any help or comments from the list.
 
H. Daniel Winter III
435 Willwood Drive
Earlysville, VA 22936
434-989-9313
 



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