Columbus District single-tracking

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Thanks.  I stand corrected on the crossing diamonds at Renick.  The 
operation did benefit, however, as the maximum authorized speed over the 
crossing was increased from 20 to 35 MPH.

Louis Newton


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> It did not eliminate the issue at Renick as it's still double track at 

> that

> location.

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> Eric

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>> Although the Columbus District single-tracking created two bottlenecks in

>> an otherwise high-capacity double track district, the single-tracking of 

>> the

>> segment rhough Chillicothe did have some marginal  benefits.  It 

>> eliminated

>> several diamonds at the crossings of the B&O at both Renick and 

>> Chillicothe.

>> It also eliminated the maintenance of one track over the Scioto River

>> bridge,  The sharp reverse curve west (compass north) of the B&O crossing 

>> in

>> Chllicothe was eased somewhat, and the previous speed limit of 20 MPH 

>> over

>> the crossings at both Renick and Chillicothe was raised to 35 MPH, thus

>> helping westbound trains get a run for Kingston Hill.

>>

>> Louis Newton

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>>>     District single-tracking (NW Mailing List)

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>>> It also eliminates the weight of two trains on the bridge at the same

>>> time.

>>> Bob McKell

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>>> Since you would have the same number of trains, how would that reduce 

>>> wear

>>> and tear on the bridge? Reduce maintenance costs? Yes! Also, reduce

>>> taxable

>>> value of the property.   Jim Nichols

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>>> Chillicothe-Scioto contains the crossing of the Scioto River, presumably

>>> this was done to reduce wear and tear on the bridge? Omega-Lunbeck I 

>>> never

>>> realized this was ever doubled. All I can say is it is a remote, curvy

>>> stretch down near the river, if that has anything to do with it. Maybe 

>>> to

>>> reduce maintenance costs? Good question, I hope someone will have more 

>>> on

>>> this. I dispatch this part of the railroad.

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>>> The segment between MP N-642 and N-652 (Omega to Lunbeck) was

>>> single-tracked

>>> in May 1959.  The segment through Chillicothe was single-tracked 

>>> sometime

>>> later, perhaps 1960.

>>>

>>> The "grand plan" at that time was to continue single-tracking large

>>> portions

>>> of the Columbus District, but when plans for the N&W-NKP-WAB merger

>>> developed, management realized that the Columbus District would no doubt

>>> see

>>> an increase in traffic, so the project was not continued.

>>>

>>> Louis Newton

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>>>> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

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>>>> MARK TWAIN NOT COMING

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>>>> H. H. Rogers and Party Will Spend Tonight at Princeton

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>>>>   Roanoke, Va., April 5 (Special)--H. H. Rogers, builder of the 

>>>> Virginian

>>>> railway, and party are in the city and were the guests of the city of

>>>> Roanoke tonight at a $10-a-plate banquet at Hotel Roanoke.  They will

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>>>> tomorrow night.  Mark Twain is not with the party.

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>>>> Anyone know the date and logic behind adding the two single track

>>>> sections

>>>> to the Columbus District between Omega and Lunbeck and again between

>>>> Chillicothe and Scioto? I believe it was in the 60's which precedes 

>>>> most

>>>> of the single tracking done by the feline mascot-ed competitor. I would

>>>> have assumed the Columbus District would have taken a significant roll 

>>>> in

>>>> the consolidation plans for when the NKP & Wabash were absorbed, so

>>>> looking back now it s sort of surprising for it to have happened in the

>>>> same time frame as the merger.

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>>>> Whit Wardell

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>>>> Bluefield Daily Telegraph

>>>> April 7, 1909

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>>>> HAILED AS GREATEST MAN COUNTRY HAS PRODUCED

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>>>>   Princeton, W. Va., April 6 (Special)--H. H. Rogers and party reached

>>>> Princeton this afternoon on a special train, being accorded the biggest

>>>> welcome the builder of the road has received anywhere along the line.

>>>> Fully 2,000 enthusiastic persons and a brass band met the train and

>>>> hailed

>>>> Mr. Rogers as the greatest man the country ever produced.  The special

>>>> train stayed at Princeton tonight and will go tomorow to Deepwater, the

>>>> western terminus of the road.  Mr. Rogers will return to New York via

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>>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because 

>>> of

>>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of 

>>> the of

>>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a 

>>> grain

>>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge 

>>> as

>>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a

>>> bottleneck from double to single and back.

>>>

>>> Larry S.

>>> N&W Signal Dept.

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>>> The western most stretch of single track also eliminated a set of 

>>> diamonds

>>> to maintain across the B&O by the Chillicothe depot. The tax issue 

>>> theory

>>> might have some merit as the start of single track at Omega is just into

>>> Pike County. West of Scioto, Kingston Hill becomes an operational issue

>>> which would have been a headache had it been single tracked. The double

>>> track section between Lunbeck and Scioto is obviously handy to pass 

>>> trains

>>> but would have frequently been blocked back then had it not been double

>>> tracked due to N&W trains working Renick Yard with both B&O interchange

>>> traffic and Mead Paper traffic.

>>>

>>> Whit

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>>> I was told, years ago, that the N&W single tracked this section because 

>>> of

>>> a tax increase by Ross County. Single track would be taxed at half of 

>>> the of

>>> the original assessment for the double track. I take this tale with a 

>>> grain

>>> of salt. Single track would double the wear on the Scioto River bridge 

>>> as

>>> all trains must use the remaining bridge. It also creates a bit of a

>>> bottleneck from double to single and back.

>>>

>>> Larry S.

>>> N&W Signal Dept.

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