Groseclose Wreck in Early 1920s

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Mon Sep 25 12:15:07 EDT 2017

Looks like a head-on collision to me with a mallet involved because of the cylinder visible below the running board midway. The air pumps shown partially through the running board sure match with the NWHS Z1a builders photo of 1308 fireman’s side.


John Garner,  Newport VA




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If you tell me the date could have Oct. 20, 1920 and it was a head end collision and the railroad location was Rural Retreat I may have the answer.  

There was a Head-end collision passenger trains (17?)  with # 558 and 14 with # 102 near Rural Retreat.  You will note there was another head end wreck near this location in 1918 with the 102 and a big one, Z1a 1461. 

Both the 558 and 102 were rebuilt.

J. Blackstock

Before some weenie waves his hand and screams,  "Gottscha ! ," and tells me that No. 18 was not the Memphis Special, let me publicly acknowledge my own failure and inadequacy in this respect.   I repent of my error and I recant my grievous error.

In the future I shall do better, think harder and longer, make no more mistakes.

Parce mihi peccata mea.

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