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I remember an excellent story about one of the Class Z's being run
from Roanoke to Bluefield after Southern had dieselized in mid-1953.
The story was written up in a Kalmbach Trains Magazine article in 2003
or thereabouts and gives credence to the fact that they were still
either being used or at least serviceable into that time frame at
least. Can anyone comment on that with first hand knowledge of the
"MIster Fix-it" story which featured a particular RFE or the like on
The basic premise of this part of the story was a boiler had failed
along the Southern line of a customer and it was going to take up to a
week to get it repaired, so a immediate mobile, yet stationary boiler,
was need as a temporary fix until permanent repairs could be put into
place. They had to run over first the N&W and then onto the Southern
west of Bristol as a real steam locomotive operation and it was
supposedly hush-hushed at the time because fans would have besieged
Southern for a trip or something of the like.
> Today's Topics:
> 1. Re: Z1a Class (NW Mailing List)
> I will be able to help you if you want a specific road number to model.
There were eight identified Z-1a's by photos that got the
piston-valved front cylinders but remained Class Z-1a to their end.
The road numbers are listed in my Giant of Steam book. Four of these
were sold to other railroads during WWII; the other four lasted to
1950-52 on the N&W.
> My book also lists the road nubers of the Z-1b's which you can deduct from that what Z-1a's were not rebuilt into Z-1b's.
> As for the Z-1a's in the late forties and early fiftes, there were 42 remaining in 1946, 34 in 1950 and the last one was dismantled at Roanoke in 12-1953 (road number 1338).
> Again, if you want a specific road number, let me know and I can work with you with personal email to help.
> Best regards,
> Lewi I. "Bud" Jeffries
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> Subject: Z1a Class
> I am not sure if this enquiry is aimed at historical N&W or modelling.
> I am a member of the N&W Historical Society and at present I am trying to find the number of the loco of the class of Z1a's that lasted the longest before either scrapping or rebuilding with piston valve low pressure cylinders, so I can put the "best fit" number on a brass HO scale Z1a model. I am hoping at least one retained its slide valves into the late forties or early fifties! Being in the UK I am some-what out of the loop when it comes to research. I have at least 6 books on the N&W including N&W Giant of Steam by Jeffries, but the above information has eluded me.
> Can any-one help?
> Thanks and regards,
> Fred Bailey.
> PS I am the engineer for a new build full size atlantic locomotive being built at the Bluebell Railway in Sussex in the UK. Here is a link to our part of the web site if any-one is interested.
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