New Scale Trains Heavyweights

Tue Jul 22 14:49:41 EDT 2025

The ScaleTrains/FoxValley/MTH streamlined cars are accurate for the
Arrow.
There have been a few Walthers cars, mainly Pennsylvania, that are
correct for N&W, like the P-S 10-6 sleeper and B60b/BEk baggage cars.
Con-Cor also did a series of short PRR cars that are correct, or at
least close enough, to ex-PRR cars N&W bought in the 30s.
Not unlike cabooses, given the unique nature of most railroads'
passenger cars, modelers of most railroads have to make do with
stand-ins. Having the Arrow cars and a few ex-PRR cars is actually a
blessing for N&W modelers. Southern, ACL, MKT, Northern Pacific,
Wabash, and a host of others, good luck. 
Marty Flick

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Subject: Re: New Scale Trains Heavyweights

   Well, once again, N&W modelers are left with "good enough" models.
Generally manufacturers do Pennsy cars and slap on N&W, B&O and any
other road name they think they can sell. Shades of the famous Athearn
B&O PA models starting in the late 1950s! It's a shame we can't get
actual N&W cars produced. 
 What's really a shame is the producer is Scale Trains! They pride
themselves on "rivet counter accurate" models then produce the same
type of cars we've had since the 1950s. One model-30 roads! On size
fits all! 
 The MTH Powhatan Arrow trains cars they are now producing are the
only plastic cars I know that are true N&W prototypes. I have not seen
them by either company so I can't say much but they look pretty good
to me. I won't get in to colors as that's a losing battle for
discussion. 
 Division Point, Roanoke Rails and Railworks have produced accurate
N&W cars in brass but the RR ones are very hard to find as well as the
RW cars. Prices are out of most of our reach too especially the DP
models. The DP models are a disgrace, to me, with their paint
inaccuracies. How can one produce such fine, exacting models and blow
it when it comes to the paint job and STILL charge upwards of $800? 
 Anyway, as bad as these new Scale Trains/Fox Valley cars are they are
very nice looking models and since we have no other option will have
to suffice. 
 My 2¢. 
 Roger Huber
 Deer Creek Locomotive Works  

    On Tuesday, July 22, 2025 at 06:10:53 AM CDT, NW Modeling List 
wrote: 

   As to the 12-1, it is deced for the Cutty Hunk and appears to be a
quite good representation with only 1 window one one side incorrect.
Jim  
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2025 at 9:49 AM NW Modeling List  wrote:
  How about the 12-1, I'm curious. 
 David  
 On Sun, Jul 20, 2025, 7:23 AM NW Modeling List  wrote:

	Thanks Jim. Another set of cars I won't purchase, just like the
Bachman smooth sides just issued, they are not worth the money,
especially these days.
 On 7/19/2025 7:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
  Walter, The diner is decorated for N&W class DE #1024. On one side
the window arrangement is close, but no cigar while the other side is
completely wrong. Also, the AC ducting is wrong. The coach is
decorated for an N&W class Pg. Jim Nichols did a very nice
presentation on modeling this class of cars at last year's convention.
the number of windows is correct, but the lavatory windows and doors
are wrong. also the lower panels and riveting are incorrect. The
baggage is decorated for an N&W class BEg. In this case the model has
two identical doors spaced nearer the ends of the car, whereas the BEg
had a single door and a double door spaced nearer the car center.
Whether these cars are "close enough" to be used as stand-ins is of
course in the eye of the beholder, Jim Cochran .  
 On Sat, Jul 19, 2025 at 1:12 PM NW Modeling List  wrote:

	Has anyone looked at the newly announced heavyweights to determine if
the Norfolk and Western actually had any of them or if they are just
painted to look like real Norfolk and Western rolling stock? All I can
tell is at least the coach is not the popular paired window coach that
was never owned by my favorite railroad. 

	Walter Davis in Youngsville, NC 
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