Arrow and added baggage cars

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Thanks Dave.  This looks like something I would like to follow up on!  
Unfortunately I was not able to access what you referenced with the info 
you provided.  Could you give me a little more help finding the information?

On 1/4/2025 8:00 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure if you know about this document, but it's amazing for 
> late steam passenger train modeling. You can see where the head end 
> and sleepers went and the consists.
>
> The copy paste is error prone, but you can get the message.
>
> NORFOLK AND WESTERN RAILWAY COMPANY
> TRAN SPORTATI ON DEPhfi’I’MENT
> --o--
> CONSIST OF ALL MnIN LINE PASSENGER TRAINS
> --o--
> Revised and Reissued, March 15, l954
>
> David Baker
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2025, 9:44 AM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>
>     Walter
>
>     The Arrow as originally planned in 1945-46 was a seven car train.
>     That was why the order with Pullman-Standard included, two P-1
>     locker or crew cars, two P2 partitioned coaches, 10, P3 58-seat
>     coaches, four D-1 diners (two for the Pocahontas) and two P-4
>     observation lounge cars.
>
>     The seven-car trains were to be set up as follows:
>
>     One P1 Coach or Locker Car with space for dining car crew and
>     coach seats
>     One P2 Coach, partitioned coach for race separation to meet
>     Virginia law
>     Three P3 Coaches
>     One D1 diner
>     One P4 Observation Lounge
>
>     Unfortunately, the railroad fairly quickly learned, with the Arrow
>     having run since April 1946, that three coaches were frequently
>     too much, so it was cut back to one or two P3 coaches, depending
>     on load and days of the week.
>
>     Traffic never picked up except for holiday travel and other rare
>     occasions.
>     By the early 1950s, the P1s were converted to full coaches with a
>     smoking section.
>
>     The train did not handle checked baggage, but about early 1957, a
>     combine was added to the consist, I assume to handle some checked
>     baggage.
>
>     Along about the same time, it was not unusual to see a
>     mail-storage car in the consist, that had been late arriving for
>     another train.
>
>     The N&W began a big effort to eliminate as much passenger service
>     as possible. With attempted adjustments of the schedule with the
>     timetable change at the end of April 1957 the RPO was placed in
>     the Arrow west of Bluefield. I believe it might have been with
>     schedule changes on the Cavalier, I’ve got a whole file on it,
>     just not in hand at the moment.
>
>     By early 1959, the round-end observation-lounge cars were parked
>     and by May sold off.
>
>     A few years later, the Arrow was then combined with the Cavalier,
>     further slowing the schedule, and it was finally allowed to die in
>     May 1969 as part of the upgrade of the Pocahontas.
>
>     Best
>     Ken Miller
>
>     > On Jan 4, 2025, at 7:08 AM, NW Mailing List
>     <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     > Does anyone know when the Arrow started adding baggage and/or
>     post office cars to the consists of the original 5 car trains? 
>     Walter Davis in Youngsville, NC
>     > --
>     > Walter Davis
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