Prototypical Trucks

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Thank you Ken, Jim N and Jim B.

I have spent the last few weeks down this rabbit hole and trying to familiarize myself with the subject of trucks. I thought I had a good basic knowledge... Oh how I was wrong.

I found Richard Hendrickson's presentation, also one that had been expanded on by another individual, can't remember his name and in fear of breaching any regs I'm loath to distribute.

An article by Jeff Wilson originally in MR also expands the topic and a series of articles by the late Bob Hundman in 1993 Mainline Modellers. There is a well reputed article in June 2018s MRH (I admit I have not read that in detail yet)

Little to nothing has gone into N&W specific truck details...

As noted the spotting feature of the T-81 is that it is a plain bearing 70 ton truck with 3 visible springs at the front of the spring pack. It is also 5'8" wheelbase. I also noted that about level with the bottom of the spring pack, there is an angle in the sideframe.

Most trucks with the angle in the side frame are either 50T with 2 springs or later and equipped with Roller bearings.

The nearest truck I have found so far is a Kadee 566 but is branded as a Barber S2...

Nothing model wise branded as an ASF design matches and I always attributed the "buckeye" designation as related to tri-axle heavy duty trucks but alas maybe buckeye is a patent style or design that like so many other terms has been miss described or associated as described in Richard Hendrickson presentation. Again more research needed.

I have searched Tahoe, Moloco, Tangent, Scaletrains, Walthers, PSC and probably others too.

Tahoe do make nice trucks and two of theirs do match N&W prototypes; TMW-105 is spot on for a T-98 and TMW-108 is pretty bang on for a T-64

I am trying to build up a spreadsheet with what information about particular truck classes and then where I can match a model offering. I will trawl the online archives for drawings and match what I can.

Again if anyone has researched a particular truck class or particular trucks for a particular car and wishes to share and save me the research on that particular truck that would be much appreciated.

Regards

Martin
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In digging through my materials I found a pdf of an article/presentation by Richard Hendrickson in 2014; Richard has since passed away and I'm not aware of anyone who has updated this material; a copy is attached.

Jim Brewer

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 3:55 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
thank you for the great resource Jim!

Mike Rector

On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 10:16 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
I have found that most, if not all, of the truck drawings in the archives were traced from the original manufacturer draT-## to find the truck drawing and can usually figure out what to use from there.

Tahoe Model Works has a very nice line of trucks in HO scale:

http://resincarworks.com/tahoe.htm

Jim Brewer

On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 11:06 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
I'm going to guess that was a Bettendorf type truck, which was modeled by practically everybody. If a 70 ton truck, look for one with three visible springs (rather than two).

Jim Nichols

On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 05:08:58 PM CDT, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org<mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:


I've been badgering Ken Miller about a variety of subjects, to which he has been most helpful, but I thought maybe others would be able to assist here.

This stemmed from trying to find correct trucks for a HO scale N&W G4 gondola, I know they are N&W T-81, but what are they in normal speak? And what is a good model?

I know N&W had unique truck designs but they also bought in standard designs and then gave them their own designation. Someone has gone to a lot of effort to create freight roster lists (posted on the website) and specified the truck fitted but what would be a useful accompanyment is a guide to N&W trucks and suitable model recommendations. Before duplicating efforts already made by others, does such a thing exist already?

If not has anyone researched particular trucks and found suitable models thereof that could start to form the basis of? I don't mind compiling but my knowledge and access to information is limited. That and others are far more qualified on the subject.

Regards

Martin
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