inside coal hoppers

NW Modeling List nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Sun Jun 11 16:04:51 EDT 2023


Thanks for the follow-up, Ken. If I’m interpreting this correctly, recently rebuilt cars that received new steel would be primed on the interior, but not finish painted (whereas new cars got both). That’s an interesting - and curious - detail. 

Matt Goodman
Columbus, Ohio, US

> On Jun 8, 2023, at 9:22 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> To revive an old subject. I just found in my files a Pennsylvania railroad painting instructions from 1953. Here is what they had to say about painting hoppers:
> 
> III. STANDARD HOPPER, GONDOLA, FLAT AND WELL CARS
> A. Standard Hopper and Gondola Cars - New, Heavy and Running Repairs:
> 1. When wood siding of composite gondola cars is removed, the exposed interior metal surfaces of side stakes, diagonal braces, corner posts, etc., shall be painted with one coat of Asphaltum Compound (Car Cement), Acct. 47, Ref. 531.
> 2. Remove rust, loose scale and loose paint with abrasive blasting,
> if available; otherwise use scrapers and wire brushes. Remove oil and grease with Petroleum Spirits, Acct. 47, Ref. 2486.
> 3. New cars must be spray-painted all over, inside and outside, with Freight Car Primer, Acct. 47, Ref. 3122, immediately after preparing the surface for painting. Prime all bare spots with Freight Car Primer, Acct. 47, Ref. 3122, on the outside of cars undergoing heavy and running repairs.
> 4. After priming, spray all over the inside and outside of hopper and gondola cars with one coat of "Wet-on-Wet" Freight Car Paint, Acct. 47,  Ref. 2383. However, when repainting hopper cars which have had no new steel applied, the inside painting is to be omitted if the corners and crevices are still properly protected. Under favorable drying conditions, the first coat of paint can usually be applied over the primer after two hours.
> 5. Spray all over the exterior of hopper cars and the exterior sides and ends of gondola cars a second coat of "Wet-on-Wet" Freight Car Red Paint, Acct. 47, Ref. 2383. Under favorable drying conditions, this second coat of
> paint can usually be applied in the open after eight hours.
> 
> Just thought it was interesting in light of the N&W discussion
> 
> Best
> Ken Miller
> 
>> On May 26, 2023, at 9:26 AM, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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>> I certainly appreciate all the information and knowledge shared about painting coal hoppers.  Of course with all great answers, more questions arise.
>> Love the site and all of you.
>> Mike Shockley
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