N&W caboose project Spring Mills Depot status

[NW Modeling List]

I'm not sure what the current situation is with NS in getting/giving
permission to use its trademarks.  Many years ago when I was publications
chairman, all we had to do was ask.  That is how the various reprints,
including *Norfolk & Western: A History*, came about.  The same with the
various models that were done.
I hadn't heard anything about NS charging a royalty or other fee.

Certainly Broadway LTD has not been hampered in producing Pennsylvania RR
locomotives.  It seems like a new PRR release every month or two.  Many
years ago at the NMRA National Train Show in Philadelphia I spoke with a
representative of Broadway.  They had already produced the Y6b and I
suggested they could use the same mechanism and do the Y-5, Y-6 and Y-6a
boilers.  I know Harold Davenport also suggested this to them but obviously
nothing has come of it.

It is my understanding that the PRRT&HS Modeling committee gathers together
all the necessary documentation and travels to Florida to meet with the
folks at Broadway to promote a new locomotive.  I have even heard a
representative of the factory in China is often in attendance. Of course,
it seems like anything with "PRR" on it sells well.

Jim Brewer



On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 2:56 PM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> So they upset a few "foamers". Where do you suppose that ranks in the NS
> box of concerns - compared to abandoning the city and state that supported
> and nurtured them for over 100 years? :-/
>
> If anything, they should look at models as recruiting... like the Navy
> does with movies like Top Gun and the sequel. Charge a reasonable fee for
> their art department to approve/modify the use of their trademark, and then
> move on. For NS to chase $1,500 or $5,000 or whatever amount we can
> imagine.... that amount is a rounding error.
>
> Community goodwill seems to be forgotten once companies grow beyond their
> region.
>
>
> Mike Rector
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 10:39 AM NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>
>> Didn’t they pay any attention to what a black eye UP got for trying this?
>>
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>> Nation
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2022, 16:27, NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List <
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>
>> I was speaking to the owner of Broadway Limited about an M and other N &
>> W engines and he stated the following. I Quote Here! Until NS gets their
>> $%& Together and end the crazy charge they have imposed for doing and NS or
>> N & W Engine Broadway will not be doing anything new. This is a crappy
>> situation.
>> Ray Russell Sr
>>
>> In a message dated 4/15/2022 6:37:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org writes:
>>
>>
>> Broadway Limited announced a CF about 10 years ago, but it was
>> cancelled.  I can't remember if it was due to lack of orders or if it was
>> caught up in some of those tooling theft lawsuits.
>>
>> I have to believe that an N&W CF would sell at least as well as a Missabe
>> or C&O wood caboose like Walthers has produced.  Of course, N&W would seem
>> to be an obvious choice for Athearn Genesis GP9's, but other than one run
>> of Redbirds and some ex-NKP or Wabash units, I don't think they've done
>> any.  Manufacturers often seem to have a "playlist", and N&W is seldom on
>> it.  How else do you explain SP and UP 4-8-2's, PRR decapods and atlantics,
>> and C&O streamlined hudsons, but no N&W M, S1/S1a, or streamlined 4-8-2?
>>
>> Marty Flick
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Friday April 15 2022 11:53:08AM
>> Subject: Re: N&W caboose project Spring Mills Depot status
>>
>> Anybody got any guesses why no model manufacturer hasn't offered a
>> reasonably accurate, plastic, steam-era N&W caboose in the past 50
>> years?
>>
>> Seems like they would only sell about a 1000 of them in the first year.
>>
>> I can't even remember how many SMD cabs I reserved. But it was/is a lot.
>>
>> John Garner, Newport VA
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