NW-Modeling-List Digest, Vol 216, Issue 29

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Sat Jan 23 18:25:09 EST 2021 

 The first passenger Geeps (762-767) were part of an order to completely dieselize the Shenandoah Division. They differed from the freight units only in the fact they had steam generators and water tanks (thus smaller fuel tanks). The decision to dieselize mainline passenger trains had not yet been made. When it was (the next year) it was decided to renumber the 762-767 as 500-505, regear them for higher top speed, increase size of the fuel and water tanks, and repaint them to match the newly delivered "redbirds" 506-521. Thus, all 22 passenger Geeps were alike except for the number and size of the fans. 500-505 had four 36" fans. 506-521 had two 48" fans.
Jim Nichols
    On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 04:30:05 PM CST, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:  
 
 On the topic of GP9 passenger engines arriving in black and having to be repainted: why didn't N&W purchasing specify the color paint they wanted? Seems like a waste of time and money to have to repaint a new engine.Ed Svitil NW #0317
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
      announcements, order by 2/26 (NW Modeling List)
   2. Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
      announcements, order by 2/26 (NW Modeling List)
   3. Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
      announcements, order by 2/26 (NW Modeling List)
   4. Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
      announcements, order by 2/26 (NW Modeling List)
   5. 766 in black and blue (NW Modeling List)


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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:34:40 -0500
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
        announcements, order by 2/26
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Yes!Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> Date: 1/22/21  10:32 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product announcements, order by 2/26 
    Did the freight GP-9 models have dynamic brakes?
    Walter Davis, full of questions, inYoungsville, NC

    On 1/21/2021 6:29 PM, NW Modeling List
      wrote:



      All of N&W freight?GP9 locomotives were
        delivered in black.??


        The first order of passenger GP9s were also delivered in
          black, and were repainted.??




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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 11:59:12 -0500
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
        announcements, order by 2/26
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:11 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Did the freight GP-9 models have dynamic brakes?
>
> Walter Davis, full of questions, inYoungsville, NC
> On 1/21/2021 6:29 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>
> All of N&W freight GP9 locomotives were delivered in black.
>
> The first order of passenger GP9s were also delivered in black, and were
> repainted.
>
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All the GP9s ordered new by the N&W had dynamic brakes.  500, 600, 700,
800, and 900 series.  Those the N&W received through merger from the NKP
and Wabash didn?t have dynamic brakes.  2400, 2500, 2800, and 3400 series.

Ed Painter
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 10:22:21 -0700
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
        announcements, order by 2/26
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Hi Walter;

All the diesel locomotives that N&W ordered (in other words not inherited
during the 1964 merger) had dynamic brakes.

You mentioned 1955/56; at that time the N&W had:  Alco RS3 phIII, Alco
RS11, and EMD GP9 phII.  The GP9 phIII locomotives came in 1958 (maybe very
late '57).

Nigel

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 9:11 AM NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

> Did the freight GP-9 models have dynamic brakes?
>
> Walter Davis, full of questions, inYoungsville, NC
> On 1/21/2021 6:29 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>
> All of N&W freight GP9 locomotives were delivered in black.
>
> The first order of passenger GP9s were also delivered in black, and were
> repainted.
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:46:20 -0500
From: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
To: NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: FW: Walthers February 2021 New Product
        announcements, order by 2/26
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Thank you, again, Nigel.? You answered at least 5 questions I had not 
asked yet.? This is truly one of the greatest group of folks anywhere.? 
I belong to several other historical societies and some of them are 
terrific, but the N&W is the most informative and has some of the nicest 
people I have corresponded with.? And, that is why I model the Norfolk 
and Western.? Thanks again.

On 1/22/2021 12:22 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> Hi Walter;
>
> All the diesel locomotives that N&W ordered (in other words not 
> inherited during the 1964 merger) had dynamic brakes.
>
> You mentioned 1955/56; at that time the N&W had:? Alco RS3 phIII, Alco 
> RS11, and EMD GP9 phII.? The GP9 phIII locomotives came in 1958 (maybe 
> very late '57).
>
> Nigel
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 9:11 AM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>
>     Did the freight GP-9 models have dynamic brakes?
>
>     Walter Davis, full of questions, inYoungsville, NC
>
>     On 1/21/2021 6:29 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>>     All of N&W freight?GP9 locomotives were delivered in black.
>>
>>     The first order of passenger GP9s were also delivered in black,
>>     and were repainted.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2021 15:33:48 -0500
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Subject: 766 in black and blue
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These 3 pix show 766 in as-delivered black with script herald, what I think
is black in 1966, then blue in 1967.  If the 1966 pic is blue, then the
color scan must be way off.  767 is the other number Walthers just announced
with DCC installed but I don't have any pix of this or the 2 non-DCC
numbers.



Jim King

http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/



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