Red Paint for AMB Caboose

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It shouldn't be necessary to prime the substructure; but I would still
prime both sides of the finish detail layer; this is especially important
if you are using an acrylic paint which would probably warp the piece if
not painted/primed on both sides.

Jim Brewer

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> This model (and perhaps all AMB models) has a sub-structure car body of
> heavy bass (I think) wood. The finish/detail layer is peel and stick wood
> that is laminated to the sub structure. Jim and Bill, painting/priming both
> sides still necessary in this case?
>
> As I noted in the build document I attached last week, I painted
> everything based on advice from my hobbyshop - including the sub-structure.
> Later, I  came to the conclusion it wasn’t necessary due to the thickness
> of the structure - at least from a warping perspective. I do recall that
> the peel and stick siding was very thirsty, so priming what would become
> finished/painted surfaces makes sense.
>
> Matt Goodman
> Columbus, Ohio, US
>
> On Aug 28, 2020, at 5:00 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> wrote:
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> I second Bill McClure's advice to prime the reverse side on wood
> structures and rolling stock; I usually prime both sides.
>
> Jim Brewer
>
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:17 PM NW Modeling List <
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>> I have used acrylics on both wooden cars and structures, without issues,
>> BUT I always prime the reverse side.
>>
>> I have also used a 'sanding sealer' to hide some of the wood grain that
>> seems to always show on cars. I use the Aero brand and thin it down.
>>
>> Bill McClure
>>
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>>>  Look for Model Master. "Red" will probably be close enough to the shade
>>> on N&W cabooses.
>>> Jim Nichols
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>>> starting pull gather things I will need to begin building my American Model
>>> Builders, HO N&W Class CF Caboose kit I purchased from the Commissary.? So
>>> far, everything I have read references a Caboose Red paint by Floquil that
>>> is no longer made.? What brand paint and name of color would you
>>> recommended for my caboose?? I have found a bottle of Floquil Caboose Red
>>> on eBay but I really don?t want to pay $23.95 for a small bottle of
>>> paint!?? Thanks.
>>>
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>>>  I use Scalecoat II Santa Fe red Doug Pillow
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>>> I haven?t used it yet but I found a bottle of model master acrylic
>>> caboose red on amazon for about $6. Since it?s acrylic I would imagine
>>> you?d have to be very careful not to warp the wood.
>>>
>>> Cameron Talley.
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>>> > ? I am starting pull gather things I will need to begin building my
>>> American Model Builders, HO N&W Class CF Caboose kit I purchased from the
>>> Commissary.? So far, everything I have read references a Caboose Red paint
>>> by Floquil that is no longer made.? What brand paint and name of color
>>> would you recommended for my caboose?? I have found a bottle of Floquil
>>> Caboose Red on eBay but I really don?t want to pay $23.95 for a small
>>> bottle of paint!?? Thanks.
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>>>  Scale coat is available from minuteman modeling both in solvent and
>>> water based.
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>>> Kurt Kramke
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>>> ? <!--#yiv0395381256 p {margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;}-->I am
>>> starting pull gather things I will need to begin building my American Model
>>> Builders, HO N&W Class CF Caboose kit I purchased from the Commissary.? So
>>> far, everything I have read references a Caboose Red paint by Floquil that
>>> is no longer made.? What brand paint and name of color would you
>>> recommended for my caboose?? I have found a bottle of Floquil Caboose Red
>>> on eBay but I really don?t want to pay $23.95 for a small bottle of
>>> paint!?? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jack Fletcher
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>>> Actually,? the N&W color was closer to Floquil's signal red than to
>>> their caboose red.
>>>
>>> As with anything,? color is an exercise in visual comparisons and any
>>> bright red will be good.? Avoid something that looks orangey or pink or
>>> maroon (or brown) and with any application of weathering you will be right
>>> where you want to be.
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>>> Brent
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>>> I am starting pull gather things I will need to begin building my
>>> American Model Builders, HO N&W Class CF Caboose kit I purchased from the
>>> Commissary.? So far, everything I have read references a Caboose Red paint
>>> by Floquil that is no longer made.? What brand paint and name of color
>>> would you recommended for my caboose?? I have found a bottle of Floquil
>>> Caboose Red on eBay but I really don?t want to pay $23.95 for a small
>>> bottle of paint!?? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Jack Fletcher
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