Lightweight Coaches

Tue May 5 07:57:58 EDT 2020

Roger:

I think the following will answer your questions.

As passenger service was winding down, there was a need for commuter cars in Chicago, so the oldest cars that would not have been refurbished or needed for the Pocahontas were converted by Roanoke Shops”

1001 former PM Coach 1720, converted to commuter car, 04-09-1970
1002 former PM Coach 1721, converted to commuter car, 04-23-1970
1003 former PM Coach 1722, converted to commuter car, 02-11-1970
1004 former PM Coach 1723, converted to commuter car, 03-12-1970
1005 former PM Coach 1724, converted to commuter car,12-11-1969
1006 former PM Coach 1730, converted to commuter car, 03-26-1970
1007 former PM Coach 1732, converted to commuter car, 11-07-1969
1008 former PM Coach 1734, converted to commuter car, 02-25-1970
1009 former P3 Coach 537, converted to commuter car, 02-13-1975
1010 former P3 Coach 534, converted to commuter car, 10-03-1979

The 1009 was donated to Roanoke Chapter NRHS in fall of 1980, restored originally as a 70 seat open window coach for excursion service in 1983-84 and renumbered 537, restored to a/c coach about 1990. Just completed a full overhaul and renovation in 2014-2019, ready for service. See photo in the Arrow 35-4. When we received the 1009, it was really abused in and out, the windows, if you can call them that, were plexiglass that you could not see three feet outside, the seats had all been made as non-reclining, and the restrooms had been removed to add seats to bring it to either 80 or 82 seats.

Many of the others survive, in some form or another, none, to my knowledge, in operating condition.

The brass models, if I recall correctly, were 1009 and 1010, with open vestibules, as the cars had been removed for commuter service.

Ken Miller

> On May 4, 2020, at 10:30 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> The cars that went to Chicago commuter service were renumbered into the 1000 series. In HO scale SOHO made models of 1001 and 1009. Which cars were they in pre-merger days (1964)? They are sometimes listed as P-3 class for sale but I thought they were PM cars in the 1700 series. Anyone have better information that would help?
> 
> Thanks! 
> 
> Roger Huber
> Deer Creek Locomotive Works
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