Decals for HL Hopper Models
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Thank you for the information. The irony is not lost on me that I pay to have hosam.com remain on the web as a tribute to Sam and Hank. Mr. McCall had collected so much info that I haven’t even gone through it all!
The attrition would be a tremendous effort and not really worth it given priorities. I have the book by Dow. What a great resource.
I mostly decided on a mix of numbers reflecting ‘36 and ‘39 builds. I arbitrarily chose the last three digits using my ‘34 Southern Railway conductor wheel reports (limited to HU and other earlier N&W hoppers) even though the HL’s don’t fit that time.
Looking forward to having my “fleet” running on the FCSME layout soon. I’ll share a photo if allowed on list (or a link otherwise).
Sent from Dave Bott' iPhone
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:19 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> Here is a good summation of reweigh rules and regulations from the AAR manuals.
> On the HL cars, remember these were being rebuilt into H9 hoppers beginning in 1949, with what was probably the oldest cars first.
> According to Dow’s N&W Hopper book, the number of HL hoppers was decreasing yearly as they were rebuilt or wrecked or scrapped.
> 1950 - 10,377
> 1951 - 7,497
> 1952 - 5,0835
> 1953 - 4,028
> 1954 - 2,822
> 1955 - 2,752
> 1956 - 1,355
> 1957 - 0
> While, of course, the H9 numbers increased
> 1950 - 1,927
> 1951 - 4,775
> 1952 - 6,394
> 1953 - 8,184
> 1954 - 9,368
> 1955 - 9,419
> 1956 - 10,730
> 1957 - 12,128
> It would be a real lesson and exercise for someone to go through the equipment ledgers here at the Archives and determine the real history of the HLs, renumbering, rebuilding and scrapping dates.
> Interestingly enough, there is a photo from the N&W showing an “HL” with the straight side sill, but it seems most certainly a retouched view of an H9 to appear in Coal Car Equipment guides
> Ken Miller
>> On Nov 27, 2019, at 9:58 AM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> So the printed build date is only good for certain car numbers right?
>> I am changing some, like 22001 to a 1936 build date and a RO ‘54 reweigh to fit FCSME layout date of 8/5/1955.
>> Any info on when and how often reweighs happened elsewhere, like Norfolk, or offline like Spencer shops on Southern or Sewell Point for Virginian?
>> I’m modeling Greensboro NC at home and Maryland on FCSME.
>> FCSME is modular layout at Timonium, MD train show and elsewhere. Http://fcsme.org
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