Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)

NW Modeling List nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Tue Nov 26 16:06:23 EST 2019


I agree with you Marty.  It's a waste not to base new models on work you 
have already done.  For instance, although it would not be a massive 
seller, a Virginian Berkshire would be relatively easy to make with 
minimal modification to the Berks already on the market.  Just add some 
to the next run of C&O and NKP Berkshires.  There are others out there, 
as well.  Bachman is making a Southern 4-6-2 (Pacific), but not the 
classic Ps4, one of the all-time steam classics.  That's one I really 
don't understand.

Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC

On 11/26/2019 3:44 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> Personally, I think that if Proto and especially BLI failed to tool 
> their respective Y's so as to offer other classes, it shows an amazing 
> lack of foresight.  Same goes with BLI and their A, which should have 
> been tooled so as to offer the earlier versions.  Every model company 
> considering a project should always ask themselves, "What else can we 
> do with this tooling and how do we design it to allow us to do so?"
>
> Marty Flick
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> To: "NW Modeling List"
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Monday November 25 2019 7:36:56PM
> Subject: RE: Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)
>
> I keep wishing someone would do a Y6a, especially with 2156 being in 
> Roanoke.
>
> Phil Miller
>
> *From:*NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *NW Modeling List
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:42 AM
> *To:* NW Modeling List
> *Subject:* Re: Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)
>
> I've just recently gotten into the hobby and am concentrating on the 
> N&W in SW West Virginia in the 40's and 50's. I just happen to live 
> not far from the office (and showroom for what there is) of Factory 
> Direct Trains. I was down there this past week to pick up my Class J 
> (#613) and was talking to the owner Joe about the Y6b. He's a BLI 
> dealer and believes that the Y6b will come back around before long 
> since BLI owns the molds for that model. I hope he's right!
>
> Tom Fulton
>
> Asheville, NC
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 9:31 AM NW Modeling List 
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>
>     When Athearn produced the Redbirds they did the later phase with
>     the 48" fans one on each end and one for dynamic frids. Rd nos
>     were 514 and 521.
>
>     At the same time they also produced two bluebird passenger GP9s
>     502 and 508. 502 had the 36" fans two on each end and I believe a
>     48" fan for dynamic grids.
>
>     I hope Athearn does indeed do a 2nd run of these as I missed the
>     first run. I haven't modeled in over 15 years and am just now
>     getting back into it, just to find I missed most of the models I
>     would like by a year or few (Atheran Redbirds, BLI Y6b, etc...).
>     If all else fails I may end up painting my own Redbirds. I just
>     need to get the fuel tank details and roof detail stuff... But
>     that's another story...
>
>     73,
>
>     Nathan Simmons
>
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>         Message: 1
>         Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 08:00:10 -0500
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>         Subject: Re: Genesis Redbird
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>         I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay.? It
>         depends
>         upon where you pre-order.
>
>         Walter Davis, Youngsville NC
>
>         On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>         > I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn
>         redbirds. I
>         > so believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce
>         a bad
>         > model. That is what we live with today. No more brick and
>         mortar hobby
>         > shops where er can see the finished model. This is the
>         internet?
>         > world, either good or bad.
>         > .
>         >
>         > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List
>         > <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
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>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>> wrote:
>         >
>         >     I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who
>         do not like
>         >     to preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
>         >
>         >     I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and
>         miss out
>         >     on a model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
>         >
>         >     Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that
>         missed out.
>         >     The other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones
>         >     crying because they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I
>         have no
>         >     sympathy for those who don?t.
>         >
>         >     Stephen Rineair
>         >
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>         >     *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
>         >     *To: *'NW Modeling List'
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>         >     *Cc: *NW Modeling List <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
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>         >     *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
>         >
>         >     I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ?
>         especially
>         >     red, since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
>         >
>         >     Phil Miller
>         >
>         >     *From:*NW-Modeling-List
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>         >     <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org
>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>>] *On Behalf Of *NW
>         >     Modeling List
>         >     *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
>         >     *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
>         >     *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
>         >
>         >     Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been almost
>         >     impossible to find since. Hopefully this inspires
>         Genesis to do
>         >     another run.? I can't remember which, but they did one
>         of two
>         >     phases, so they can do another run with the other phase.
>         >
>         >     Marty Flick
>         >
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>         >
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>         >     Cc:
>         >     Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
>         >     Subject: Genesis Redbird
>         >
>         >     I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking
>         >     reservations for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue.? I
>         ordered 1 of
>         >     the redbirds with full dcc/sound.? Out of curiosity, I?ve
>         >     occasionally looked on ebay for either engine to check
>         >     availability (I?m not in the market for another nor plan
>         to sell
>         >     mine).? I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the blue
>         scheme but
>         >     none for the red.? Are these as ?rare? as lack of
>         auctions indicates?
>         >
>         >     Jim King
>         >
>         > http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
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>         Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2019 19:42:53 -0500
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>         Subject: Re: Genesis Redbird
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>         That's very correct.  Most hobby dealers that do pre-orders
>         don't require
>         pro-payment of even a deposit.
>
>         Ed Painter - Member #70 from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA
>
>         On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM NW Modeling List
>         <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>         wrote:
>
>         > I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay. 
>         It depends
>         > upon where you pre-order.
>         >
>         > Walter Davis, Youngsville NC
>         > On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
>         >
>         > I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn
>         redbirds. I so
>         > believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce a
>         bad model. That
>         > is what we live with today. No more brick and mortar hobby
>         shops where er
>         > can see the finished model. This is the internet  world,
>         either good or
>         > bad.
>         > .
>         >
>         > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List
>         <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>         > wrote:
>         >
>         >> I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who do
>         not like to
>         >> preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
>         >>
>         >> I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and
>         miss out on a
>         >> model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
>         >>
>         >> Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that
>         missed out. The
>         >> other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones
>         crying because
>         >> they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I have no sympathy
>         for those who
>         >> don?t.
>         >>
>         >> Stephen Rineair
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> Sent from Mail
>         <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>         >> Windows 10
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> *From: *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
>         <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>         >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
>         >> *To: *'NW Modeling List' <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
>         >> *Cc: *NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg
>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg>>
>         >> *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ?
>         especially red,
>         >> since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
>         >>
>         >> Phil Miller
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> *From:* NW-Modeling-List
>         [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org
>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>] *On
>         >> Behalf Of *NW Modeling List
>         >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
>         >> *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
>         >> *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been
>         almost impossible
>         >> to find since.  Hopefully this inspires Genesis to do
>         another run.  I can't
>         >> remember which, but they did one of two phases, so they can
>         do another run
>         >> with the other phase.
>         >>
>         >> Marty Flick
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> -----------------------------------------
>         >>
>         >> From: "NW Modeling List"
>         >> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
>         <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
>         >> Cc:
>         >> Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
>         >> Subject: Genesis Redbird
>         >>
>         >> I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking
>         reservations
>         >> for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue.  I ordered 1 of the
>         redbirds with
>         >> full dcc/sound.  Out of curiosity, I?ve occasionally looked
>         on ebay for
>         >> either engine to check availability (I?m not in the market
>         for another nor
>         >> plan to sell mine).  I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the
>         blue scheme but
>         >> none for the red.  Are these as ?rare? as lack of auctions
>         indicates?
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >> Jim King
>         >>
>         >> http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
>         >>
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