Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)
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Tue Nov 26 16:06:23 EST 2019
I agree with you Marty. It's a waste not to base new models on work you
have already done. For instance, although it would not be a massive
seller, a Virginian Berkshire would be relatively easy to make with
minimal modification to the Berks already on the market. Just add some
to the next run of C&O and NKP Berkshires. There are others out there,
as well. Bachman is making a Southern 4-6-2 (Pacific), but not the
classic Ps4, one of the all-time steam classics. That's one I really
don't understand.
Walter Davis, Youngsville, NC
On 11/26/2019 3:44 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> Personally, I think that if Proto and especially BLI failed to tool
> their respective Y's so as to offer other classes, it shows an amazing
> lack of foresight. Same goes with BLI and their A, which should have
> been tooled so as to offer the earlier versions. Every model company
> considering a project should always ask themselves, "What else can we
> do with this tooling and how do we design it to allow us to do so?"
>
> Marty Flick
>
> -----------------------------------------
>
> From: "NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List"
> To: "NW Modeling List"
> Cc: "NW Modeling List"
> Sent: Monday November 25 2019 7:36:56PM
> Subject: RE: Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)
>
> I keep wishing someone would do a Y6a, especially with 2156 being in
> Roanoke.
>
> Phil Miller
>
> *From:*NW-Modeling-List [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org] *On
> Behalf Of *NW Modeling List
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 10:42 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: Genesis Redbird (NW Modeling List)
>
> I've just recently gotten into the hobby and am concentrating on the
> N&W in SW West Virginia in the 40's and 50's. I just happen to live
> not far from the office (and showroom for what there is) of Factory
> Direct Trains. I was down there this past week to pick up my Class J
> (#613) and was talking to the owner Joe about the Y6b. He's a BLI
> dealer and believes that the Y6b will come back around before long
> since BLI owns the molds for that model. I hope he's right!
>
> Tom Fulton
>
> Asheville, NC
>
> On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 9:31 AM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>
> When Athearn produced the Redbirds they did the later phase with
> the 48" fans one on each end and one for dynamic frids. Rd nos
> were 514 and 521.
>
> At the same time they also produced two bluebird passenger GP9s
> 502 and 508. 502 had the 36" fans two on each end and I believe a
> 48" fan for dynamic grids.
>
> I hope Athearn does indeed do a 2nd run of these as I missed the
> first run. I haven't modeled in over 15 years and am just now
> getting back into it, just to find I missed most of the models I
> would like by a year or few (Atheran Redbirds, BLI Y6b, etc...).
> If all else fails I may end up painting my own Redbirds. I just
> need to get the fuel tank details and roof detail stuff... But
> that's another story...
>
> 73,
>
> Nathan Simmons
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> I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay.? It
> depends
> upon where you pre-order.
>
> Walter Davis, Youngsville NC
>
> On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> > I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn
> redbirds. I
> > so believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce
> a bad
> > model. That is what we live with today. No more brick and
> mortar hobby
> > shops where er can see the finished model. This is the
> internet?
> > world, either good or bad.
> > .
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List
> > <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who
> do not like
> > to preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
> >
> > I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and
> miss out
> > on a model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
> >
> > Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that
> missed out.
> > The other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones
> > crying because they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I
> have no
> > sympathy for those who don?t.
> >
> > Stephen Rineair
> >
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> > for Windows 10
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> > *From: *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
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> > *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
> > *To: *'NW Modeling List'
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> > *Cc: *NW Modeling List <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> > *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
> >
> > I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ?
> especially
> > red, since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
> >
> > Phil Miller
> >
> > *From:*NW-Modeling-List
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> > <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>>] *On Behalf Of *NW
> > Modeling List
> > *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
> > *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
> > *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
> >
> > Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been almost
> > impossible to find since. Hopefully this inspires
> Genesis to do
> > another run.? I can't remember which, but they did one
> of two
> > phases, so they can do another run with the other phase.
> >
> > Marty Flick
> >
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
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> > Cc:
> > Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
> > Subject: Genesis Redbird
> >
> > I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking
> > reservations for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue.? I
> ordered 1 of
> > the redbirds with full dcc/sound.? Out of curiosity, I?ve
> > occasionally looked on ebay for either engine to check
> > availability (I?m not in the market for another nor plan
> to sell
> > mine).? I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the blue
> scheme but
> > none for the red.? Are these as ?rare? as lack of
> auctions indicates?
> >
> > Jim King
> >
> > http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
> >
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> That's very correct. Most hobby dealers that do pre-orders
> don't require
> pro-payment of even a deposit.
>
> Ed Painter - Member #70 from Narrows, VA living in Cohutta, GA
>
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 3:11 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> wrote:
>
> > I know that in most cases pre-order does not mean pre-pay.
> It depends
> > upon where you pre-order.
> >
> > Walter Davis, Youngsville NC
> > On 11/20/2019 9:43 PM, NW Modeling List wrote:
> >
> > I totally agree with you. I pre ordered two or the athearn
> redbirds. I so
> > believe that every manufacture has the ability to produce a
> bad model. That
> > is what we live with today. No more brick and mortar hobby
> shops where er
> > can see the finished model. This is the internet world,
> either good or
> > bad.
> > .
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019, 3:36 PM NW Modeling List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I agree with Ed. I know that there are some people who do
> not like to
> >> preorder, but if you do not you could lose out.
> >>
> >> I do not feel sorrow for those that do not preorder and
> miss out on a
> >> model. You snooze you lose. Why would a manufacture
> >>
> >> Rerun a model because of the few that wanted one that
> missed out. The
> >> other phase Red bird yes. But will we have the some ones
> crying because
> >> they did not preorder ? most likely!!! I have no sympathy
> for those who
> >> don?t.
> >>
> >> Stephen Rineair
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Mail
> <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> >> Windows 10
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From: *NW Modeling List via NW-Modeling-List
> <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> >> *Sent: *Sunday, November 17, 2019 10:17 AM
> >> *To: *'NW Modeling List' <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>>
> >> *Cc: *NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhsorg>>
> >> *Subject: *RE: Genesis Redbird
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I concur. Maybe a run of red and blue in both phases ?
> especially red,
> >> since they only did the phase III(?) the last time.
> >>
> >> Phil Miller
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* NW-Modeling-List
> [mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list-bounces at nwhs.org>] *On
> >> Behalf Of *NW Modeling List
> >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 16, 2019 2:39 PM
> >> *To:* 'NW Modeling List'
> >> *Subject:* RE: Genesis Redbird
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, the redbirds sold out very quickly and have been
> almost impossible
> >> to find since. Hopefully this inspires Genesis to do
> another run. I can't
> >> remember which, but they did one of two phases, so they can
> do another run
> >> with the other phase.
> >>
> >> Marty Flick
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------
> >>
> >> From: "NW Modeling List"
> >> To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
> <mailto:nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Saturday November 16 2019 11:26:57AM
> >> Subject: Genesis Redbird
> >>
> >> I was fortunate to find a dealer a couple years ago taking
> reservations
> >> for the Genesis GP9s in red and blue. I ordered 1 of the
> redbirds with
> >> full dcc/sound. Out of curiosity, I?ve occasionally looked
> on ebay for
> >> either engine to check availability (I?m not in the market
> for another nor
> >> plan to sell mine). I?ve only seen 2 or 3 auctions for the
> blue scheme but
> >> none for the red. Are these as ?rare? as lack of auctions
> indicates?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim King
> >>
> >> http://smokymountainmodelworks.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________________
> >> NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org <mailto:NW-Modeling-List at nwhs.org>
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