Tuscan color

Mon Jul 14 08:08:23 EDT 2014

Harold:

Would it be possible for us to get a sample copy of the color chips and let
us make the decision? Would the gentlemen be open if we pay him all his
expenses?

Colors do photograph beet when they are dark in modeling.

Stephen Rineair

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Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:14 AM
To: NW Modeling List
Subject: Re: Tuscan color

Frank: You may have noticed that I have not said anything during this
discussion.  There are paint color drift cards for both the tuscan red and
the blue in private hands in Roanoke. However, if you paint models in the
exact color it is far too dark.  I believe it is a matter of scale.  Harold

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 8:55 AM, NW Modeling List
<nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org> wrote:

The archives has informed me that we don't have color chips in the archives.

Based on the discussion so far, even if we had them, it probably wouldn't
settle this argument.

I'm not sure anything would actually settle this argument.

I, for one, do appreciate the guys who did chime in with the "this works for
me" answer, that is really the best answer for the original inquirer.

And it does appear that over the years we've learned the impact of lighting,
time, distance, perception, weathering, and lighting.  

Frank Bongiovanni

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:25 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

FWIW perhaps the model committee could provide a paint chip or drift card to
Tru-Color; I'm sure they would be glad to add N&W Tuscan to their line of
prototypically correct model paints.

Jim Brewer

Glenwood MD

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Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2014 3:28:14 PM
Subject: RE: Tuscan color

Lee;

What both Frank and Ed are talking about occurs in most every society.
Having lived in Milwaukee, WI for several years, I watched an argument
between a pair of Milw. Rd. HS members about the correct color orange on
their passenger cars and other equipment. One member argued that the second
was wrong in that they were all painted the same color & shade of orange.
The second while partially agreed, he stated that they were not all the same
color orange, as he had seen them come out of the paint shops is different
shades of orange, with the paint being ordered at the same time from the
same paint mfgr., which at the time was being delivered in 55 gal drums. The
first individual continued to tell the second he was wrong but finally
realized he had to quit arguing when the second told him that he was one of
a half dozen employees of the Milw. Road who painted their equipment fleet
for a living.....

That being said, the N&W Red from Scalecoat color works well, however it has
a bit of a metallic flake to it. There are several colors I have seen work
fairly well, including WC Maroon. Another color that has just come onto the
market is from TruColor paints, which is very similar in nature to the old
line of Accu-Paint. They are now offering part # TCP-276 - PRR 1948+
Passenger Car Tuscan.

I am sure that somewhere in the archives there is a Paint ID # for the
non-metallic red, that can be shared and closely matched with current
commercial paints from a PPG or ICI paint dealer. I would suggest obtaining
a small amount of said color and try to best match that color by primering a
piece of styrene and top coating the commercial grade paint, and then doing
the same with several colors of model rr paint and seeing which works best
for you and you lighting situation. Keep in mind that some clear coats will
slightly shift the tone of the color of the paint. Also, the color primer
will yield different finish colors as well. Tamyia offers both a white and
mild grey primer paint for example. Darker colors tend to pop more on a
lighter base color.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Russ Goodwin
Buford, GA

Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 23:16:58 -0400
Subject: Re: Tuscan color
To: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
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Lee; what Ed is referring to is a "color flame war" that happens every time
N&W Tuscan Red or Pevlar Blue shows up on this list.  FWIW, this also
happens on the C&O list with Enchantment Blue, the C&O list and the NYC list
with shades of gray, and probably just about every other model railroad
list. 

Hopefully someone who does a lot of painting, and is pleased with the
result, will tell you what mix works for them, and will nicely mention that
with lighting, etc. (the etc. is half a clinic)you may have to make
adjustments.  With that I can't help; tuff enough for us Virginian modelers
to settle on workable yellows and black.  One thing I can tell you, is that
Dr. Jim EuDaly (he's an eye doc, so this isn't fantasy)actually told us in a
clinic (at a C&O meet)that color actually varies a bit with scale, and (I
hope I got this right)you probably need a tad lighter mix than an HO modeler
would.  I can also tell you that your room lighting is probably one of the
most important factors.  I guess there's one other thing I should mention
because the more experienced painters consider it so obvious they don't
mention it: make sure the light where you paint is the same as the light on
the layout. 

Frank Bongiovanni

On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 5:48 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

My favorite modeling list topic! 

Ed Painter Narrows,VA living in Dahlonega,GA

On Jul 2, 2014, at 3:21 PM, NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:

I am new member to the modeling list.  I am painting an N scale passenger
car set and wondered what color you folks recommend to match the Tuscan red.

Thank you, 

Lee Burns

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