N&W N Scale Caboose Dilemma!

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Thanks Jim, I appreciate your help....maybe it would be easier to model 1964 than 1959.  

Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 19:29:00 -0700
Subject: Re: N&W N Scale Caboose Dilemma!
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None of the schemes you describe would be correct for 1959. In 1959, N&W cabooses were still using the lettering scheme adopted about 1946, with white "NORFOLK AND WESTERN" in railroad Roman under the windows, the number below it, and no emblem. The scheme with the "hamberger" herald and the big block letters wasn't adopted until January 1964. Don't know where you would find N scale decals for the 1959 scheme. You may have to get an alphabet and do it one letter at a time.      Jim Nichols





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Hello N&W modelers,
I’m really going to need some help from you retired former employees, or students of N&W history.
 
I want to model the year 1959. I have a pretty good handle on what emblems go on what locomotives for that era, thanks to you…for giving me some answers and pointing me in the right direction. Now I hope you will do the same concerning the cabooses. 
 

>From my findings of what is on the market for n scale cabooses, there are three basic heralds.  

 
1. The white hamburger emblem below the cupola and Norfolk and Western written in white block letters below, centered on the body. These appear to be on the C-17s, which places the cupola near the end of the car.
The same configuration appears on the C9 (Atlas calls it a NE-6), placing the cupola in the center of the car.. This particular Atlas model has four numbers divided into two sets, 557728 & 557733 and 557763 & 557769. According to The N&W Historical Society site, the caboose number series of 557761-557784 were former NPR cabooses, in which one pair of numbers fit.  NPR was merged into the N&W in 1964, so I am in doubt that even though the emblem “may” fit into my era, the numbers don’t. I couldn’t find any information on the other two numbers.


2. N&W in small white block letters (about the size of the hamburger emblem) placed directly under the cupola…period! No “Norfolk & Western” displayed anywhere. This configuration also appears on the C17 model.


3. N&W in large white blocked letters directly under the cupola….on the C9 model were the cupola is in the center of the car, and same as above, no “ Norfolk and Western” displayed anywhere.  
 
I also searched for n scale decals (Microscale & Shell Scale) of the white hamburger emblem and couldn’t find any…just in case I had to buy an unmarked caboose and dress it to fit my era. My reasoning is that the caboose emblems would be very similar to the locomotive emblems…as they changed. I am pretty certain that the large white block letters would not fit…even though the caboose’s built date would fit in to the 1959 era. Besides, the white block letters for the locomotives came in the early 70s shortly after John Fishwick became N&W’s CEO. That being said, I am not certain about the small white block emblems on the cabooses. 
 
So…my question is…What N&W caboose emblems would fit into the 1959 era? 
 
Please correct me, if you find any of the information I stated above is incorrect. 
 
Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Bill Capranica
 
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