HO 4-8-0 Boiler

NW Modeling List nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org
Sat Jan 26 21:14:22 EST 2008


Mark, I may be reinventing the wheel here, but for the
dimensions:

1)Are there drawings in the archives?
2)Might Rick Musser, Strasburg RR shop supervisor and
host of our 2006 convention and a great guy, have the
measurements you need?


--- NW Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>
wrote:


> I have already been planning out an M2 'fleet' for

> my railroad.

> I have already cobbled one together to see its

> feasibility. I want

> to have 5-8 of them when all the dust settles. It

> starts with MDC

> frame and drivers and side rods.

> Add in a bunch of Cal-Scale and Bowser bits, and a

> "USRA" style

> tender.

> The boiler is a piece of PVC tube filled with lead

> shot and epoxy.

> I glued the brass castings onto the PVC tube with

> CA.

> The plan is to make a "best shot at being correct"

> and building

> another, cleaner boiler,firebox,

> back head, brackets for appliances, stack bases,

> sand, steam, and

> access hole pieces added to

> boiler if it would 'cast' cleanly. I make a mold of

> the PVC tube and

> castings version, but

> CAST the final boilers with Alumilite and Lead shot.

> I run a thin

> brass tube to the headlight

> area and use the large MDC/Roundhouse 2-8-0 cab. The

> smaller, "Old

> Timer" 2-8-0

> frame with the larger MDC/Roundhouse, and all those

> Bowser Valve Gear

> parts

> can be used to make your own Baker-Pilliard valve

> gear. Small wheels

> with

> big heavy boiler is what you want. A smaller body

> with different

> valve gear

> and you M1, or an M. N&W's 475 as restored at

> Strasburg would be a

> perfect subject for Boswer.

> They could do a frame and those lil drivers, and

> maybe some SPOKED

> wheels?

>

> I've scarfed up several MDC kits very cheap, so all

> I need to do is

> get moving on the boiler.

>

> Any REALLY good source for boiler

> measurements?...other than hacking

> thru the weeds

> and measuring the old relics they want to 'pick up

> and move' .......

>

>

> Mark Lindsey

> Stuck in the 1930's

>

>

>

>

>

> On Jan 24, 2008, at 10:52 PM, NW Modeling List

> wrote:

>

> A year or so ago someone asked if anyone had a metal

> working

> lathe to make a "M" boiler in HO out of brass to be

> used as a die.

> I replied that I had a lathe and I would be happy to

> make the forming

> die, but it would be better cut it from drill rod

> tool steel so the

> die can

> be used many times with out damage, besides the cost

> of tool steel

> is much less and you get a better tool.

> I asked to send me a print in HO and I would make

> the die for 3 of the

> new brass boiler shells. I never heard anything from

> my offer.

> Its still open!!

>

> If we want M's why not design and make our own kits?

> Boiler shell from brass shim-stock, cab, frame and

> tender from

> brass stock. Every thing else I think we could buy

> off the shelf.

> We need the following tools to make the Kit:

> Metal lathe only for boiler tooling, small milling

> machine,

> metal cutting band saw, small hand break,

> (drill press,drills and taps?).

>

> There still are a few of us 70 to 80 year olds

> scratch builders still

> around.

> In the 1940's there were printed paste-board and

> wood car kits.

> and a very few very high priced 0-4-0, 4-4-0 and

> 2-6-0 Loco Kits.

> In the late 40's and early 50's other kits came on

> the market,

> If you wanted power you had to build it from a kit

> and this led some of

> us to scratch building.

>

> Any one remember the steel HO rail of the late 30's

> and early

> 40's when everything ran on a 6 Volt auto battery??

> After a

> few months in the basement you did not need rust

> color paint

> for the rail.

>

> H.B.Lyon

> Alexandria

>

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