Bay windows

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Tue Oct 17 15:51:46 EDT 2006

--- nw-modeling-list at wrote:

> Dear listers,


> I recently acquired a Proto 2000 GP30. With it came

> a separate package with two bay windows, two sun

> shades and four "glass" plates, which I thought was

> very nice.

> In "N&W: Second generation diesels" I read that

> practically all engines were equipped with bay

> windows. But on several photographs (of different

> locomotive types) I see cabs with sunshades and

> those glass plates. For my GP30 it's clear, it had

> the bay windows, but what was practice here?

> And when equipped with bay windows, were the

> "ordinary" windows removed or just slid open?

> I ask this because for me as a modeler from The

> Netherlands the use of bay windows etc. is unknown,

> and I'd like to get it right.

> Can anyone shine some light across the Atlantic?


> Thanks,


> Joost Driehuijs

I assume you are referring to all weather cab windows
(AWC), which often were applied to one side of the
locomotive only (the "left" side IIRC where the long
hood is the front of the loco).

Apparently GP40 1361 had them on both sides:

In this view only unit 1936 has a AWC:

GP30 537 in 1977 with AWC on the "right" side:

556 in 1968 with the same:

Here's 552 in 1966 with no AWC on the "left" side:

562 in 1966 with no AWC on the "right" side:

I think these started to be added in the 1965-1970
time frame (I'm sure someone here knows better than
I). Best to consult photos I guess.

Mark Peele
Catonsville, MD

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