Ash Hoists

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Gary,

Great work!  Prototype modeling is full of challenges, but it is so 
rewarding in my opinion.

Years ago, I think it was 1992 when NWHS had its first Williamson convention 
to celebrate the centenial of the Ohio Extension, someone offered a HO kit 
of the Williamson Lubritorium, or long house.  It was made up of hydrocal 
castings if I recall correctly.

Shenandoah had its own lubritorium, but is was nothing more than a wooden 
structure built over an inspection pit; ventilation was accomplished by the 
fact that the roof sheathing was left off near the peak of the roof!  I'm 
working on a model of this for my terminal.

Best wishes and continued happy modeling.

Jim Brewer

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> Thanks for the compliment Jim. From the information I have, there were 

> only two modern ash handling plants built before the switch to diesel 

> locomotives. One at Williamson terminal and the other was at the Schaffer 

> Terminal. They were a take off from ash handling plants for large 

> industrial coal burning furnaces.

> I learned about the modern ash handling plant from the book, "Steam 

> Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling Facilities" 

> Compiled by Thomas W. Dixon, Jr., TLC Publishing

> http://www.tlcrailroadbooks.com/cgi-bin/tlcstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=x22

>

> It was only a couple photos and some text, so I started to do more 

> research. I have to say I got very lucky.

>

> Another source is the April 1947 issue of Trains Magazine.

> http://index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=I&MAG=TRN&MO=4&YR=1947&output=3&sort=A

>

> Also I was able to find a copy of Vern French's book "The Norfolk & 

> Western Railway: Williamson Terminal - 1953"

> http://index.mrmag.com/tm.exe?opt=I&MAG=BOOK&MO=2&YR=1992&output=3

>

> I searched the VA Tech site, before the change, and found a few other 

> photos I didn't see before. If a detail is in the photo, it's on the 

> model, even if it's hidden. What I couldn't see in the photos or find in 

> writen text, I had to guess at. Modelers license, if you will. Then I 

> found a few more photos after I started construction. Oh well, some of the 

> guess work wasn't too far off. I still don't know what the long objects 

> were that run parallel to the outer rails between pits, so I'm leaving 

> them out for now. I still have other details, like the light poles and 

> piping, to add when the model is placed on the layout. 

> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/finltpole01.jpg

>

> Basically It's scratch built from Evergreen and Plastruct styrene strips, 

> sheets and tubing. The brick pump house walls are cut down DPM plain two 

> story wall modules. The silo was kit-bashed from a Model Power Grain Silo. 

> Handrail are brass wire.

> I know the model isn't an exact in every detail, but I feel it represents 

> the prototype idea.

>

> Presently I'm working on building a two bay N&W "Lubeitorium". It's like a 

> Quickie Lube for locos.

> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw193.jpg

> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw842.jpg

>

> When I started the project, I only found photos of the two bay facility. 

> It was outfitted with banks of florescent lights. I was stuck for quite a 

> while trying to figure out how to make HO scale florescent lights. But I 

> think I was able to make a reasonable  facsimile of them.

> http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/FLORESCENTLAMP1.jpg

>

> There's more on how I made them on Model Railroader Forum

> http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=58247

>

> I started more than a year ago here.

> http://www.trains.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33172

>

>

>

>

>

>>From: nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org

>>Reply-To: N and W Modeling List <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>Subject: Re: Ash Hoists

>>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 07:52:38 -0400

>>

>>Gary,

>>

>>Thanks for your response and the information.  I'll check out the Walthers 

>>model as it appears very close to what I believe was at Shenandoah.  The 

>>model would require some modifications but otherwise appears to be a great 

>>starting point.  I usually buy a Walthers catalog every year but didn't 

>>get a 2006 yet!

>>

>>Your model of the Williamson ash handling plant is fantastic.  I'm sure 

>>Editor Greever would love to have an article on your prototype research 

>>and your modeling effort!

>>

>>Thanks again for your response.

>>

>>Jim Brewer

>>

>>----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>To: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:52 PM

>>Subject: RE: Ash Hoists

>>

>>

>>>Since the VA Tech site changed, I haven't been able to find much of 

>>>anything there either.

>>>

>>>Sorry I don't know exactly which type of ash conveyor N&W used at 

>>>Shenandoah Jim, but it probably was a Robertson. Scale Structures makses 

>>>a Robertson Cinder Conveyor

>>>http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/650-1110

>>>

>>>The model is the hydralic type. It could be converted to electric. I 

>>>built two but then desided to model the modern ash handeling plant at 

>>>Williamson Yard.

>>>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw035.jpeg

>>>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw027.jpg

>>>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw205.jpg

>>>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/nw053.jpg

>>>http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-2/1148725/ashplant.jpg

>>>

>>>The modern ash plant used water to wash the pit clean using high pressure 

>>>jets. The pit would empty into a slice trough and into a silo where the 

>>>ash and water were seperated. The ash was  would be emptied into a open 

>>>hopper car.

>>>

>>>A good reference book about coaling stations, including ash handeling, is 

>>>"Steam Locomotive Coaling Stations and Diesel Locomotive Fueling 

>>>Facilities, compiled by Thomas W. Dixon, Jr. T.L.C. publishing

>>>http://www.tlcrailroadbooks.com/cgi-bin/tlcstore.pl?user_action=detail&catalogno=x22

>>>

>>>Gary Setter

>>>

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>>>>Reply-To: NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>To: "N&W Mailing List" <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>Subject: Ash Hoists

>>>>Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 11:44:59 -0400

>>>>

>>>>I am looking for information and photos on the ash hoists at Shenandoah, 

>>>>VA.

>>>>

>>>>A search of ash hoist on the VA Tech web site yielded nothing.

>>>>

>>>>A search of my NWHS Archives CD turns up no specific entries for these 

>>>>hoists.  There are a number of entries for other locations.

>>>>

>>>>Apparently, there were two types (maybe more) of hoists used by N&W, 

>>>>electric and pneumatic.

>>>>

>>>>Can anyone provide information on the Shenandoah hoists?  I'd like to 

>>>>model these as closely as possible.

>>>>

>>>>Any help will be greatly appreciated.

>>>>

>>>>Jim Brewer

>>>>Glenwood MD

>>>

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