Bowser to DCC was Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

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Hi Bob;

On your Bowser kit, trade the motor in for a new one that is DCC ready with 
a skew wound armature and high energy magnets.  Scroll down to near the 
bottom of:  http://www.bowser-trains.com/hoother/dcc/dcc.htm

Alternatively, an Alliance Helix Humper.  http://www.alliancelink.com/alp/

For a decoder: Digitrax DH123D is one of the many choices. 
http://www.digitrax.com/prd_mobdec_dh123d.php
and if you need more than two functions DH163 
http://www.digitrax.com/prd_mobdec_dh163d.php

There are many other decoder options out there including Lenz, TCS, NCE and 
others that will also work well for you.

Nigel F Misso
nfmisso at mchsi.com

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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question



> Hmmmm is that a really complicated operation? I have been considering 

> replacing the motor and trying to make it a simpler operation. Likewise, I 

> have the bowser re-motor kit for a J and it appears that making this a 

> DCC-ready locomotive would be a bear. Anyone done it successfully and able 

> to share a few pointers?

>

> Bob Welsh

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> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 1:53 AM

> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>

>

>> Hi Bob;

>>

>> For the motor in the cab units, you may want to replace the Rivarossi 

>> motor with a Mashima, or NWSL motor.  The swap will provide better 

>> operation, and easier DCC conversion.

>>

>> Nigel F Misso

>> nfmisso at mchsi.com

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:06 AM

>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>

>>

>>> Wow i posted this more than a week ago.

>>> I have since determined that i have one unit with the motor in the 

>>> center and two with the motors in the cab. In either case it appears I 

>>> have to do some modification to the frame of the motors at least on the 

>>> cab-mounted ones to make it work electrically. I have not had time since 

>>> I last posted to really forge ahead on this but I will make careful 

>>> notes in case someone else comes along behind me needing advice, just as 

>>> several of you on here have done for me. Thanks!

>>>

>>> Bob Welsh

>>>

>>>

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>>> From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>> To: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:19 PM

>>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>

>>>

>>>> motor in the cab....and as best as I can figure I will have to tip 

>>>> apart the front of the locomotive to get at the light to isolate it as 

>>>> I can only locate one of the headlamp leads...

>>>>

>>>> Bob Welsh

>>>>

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>>>> To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:58 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>Hi Bob;

>>>>>

>>>>>Reading your note, I think that you have things pretty well scoped out. 

>>>>>Both the motor and headlight get power from the frame.  You must sever 

>>>>>those connections.

>>>>>

>>>>>Get out your multimeter, and make sure the motor and the light bulb are 

>>>>>isolated, then hook up the decoder.

>>>>>

>>>>>You may want to add a resistor in series with the light bulb so that it 

>>>>>does not get excessively hot and melt the shell.

>>>>>

>>>>>Which version(s) of the Riv Y6b do you have; motor in cab or motor in 

>>>>>the center?

>>>>>

>>>>>Nigel F Misso

>>>>>nfmisso at mchsi.com

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>To: "N and W Modeling List" <nw-modeling-list at nwhs.org>

>>>>>Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:15 PM

>>>>>Subject: Rivarossi Y6b question

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>I need a little help here. I have three of these. I am planning on 

>>>>>>putting DCC decoders in them. I have one of them open on my workbench 

>>>>>>now. I need help in determining:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>A) which wires are for what - from my eyes it LOOKS like the motor 

>>>>>>gets half its power from a pickup on the engineer side wired to a 

>>>>>>contact on the motor and the other side of the power through the 

>>>>>>locomotive frame to the case of the motor. I have figured out how to 

>>>>>>isolate that to get to the DCC decoded I think.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>B) how does the headlight get its power? I can see one wire that leads 

>>>>>>from the motor case to the front. Therefore I am assuming the other 

>>>>>>half the bulb's power is also coming from the frame? I am scared to 

>>>>>>tear the thing apart much more without knowing what I am doing. I had 

>>>>>>a lot less trouble putting a decoder in an early 60's Mantua Pacific 

>>>>>>in the course of making N&W #578.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Any help would be appreciated.. feel free to post it here or email me 

>>>>>>directly at bob at firedogwireless.com. If putting my email address in 

>>>>>>this post is taboo, Mr Moderator, please edit it out and send the post 

>>>>>>on... I really want to run something other than a J, the E2 or an 

>>>>>>inappropriate 2-10-0 on my newly-updated to DCC layout....

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Bob Welsh

>>>>>>

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