Researching First Reference to Dorney

Sun Jul 20 15:03:19 EDT 2025

Thanks Mike. When I grabbed the google map link the other day, I noticed that was the option. I was going to add the 1927 map overlay you did for me. There was a problem with the title, so I submitted a correction first (added the word “Dorney” to the place name), and decided to wait on that to go through before adding photos. 

Matt Goodman

> On Jul 19, 2025, at 9:03 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
> 
> I add historical sites to Google maps too. I recommend you include a historical (or current if appropriate) photo when you do this.
> 
> <1752930163872.jpg>
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> 
> Mike Rector
> 
> On Sat, Jul 19, 2025, 6:48 AM NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>> Jim and Ken, thank you!
>> 
>> I’ve added your latest comments to my notes, and where they came from. If you come across anything else, please let me know. 
>> 
>> For anyone reading this with mild interest, a placename marking the location of the Dorney coaling station has been added to Google Maps. I encourage others to do the same for their points of interest!  
>> 
>> https://maps.app.goo.gl/GDxFtJbMX6eCU6AFA
>> 
>> Matt Goodman
>> 
>>> On Jul 18, 2025, at 3:33 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey Matt
>>> 
>>> I looked, or tried to look at the employee timetables we had, but one of them is missing, I hope just misplaced.
>>> 
>>> Dorney is not listed in anything prior to 1900.
>>> 
>>> It is first listed in the Stations and Sidings book No. 36, effective September 1, 1912; however, there were no listings prior to that date.
>>> 
>>> Best
>>> Ken Miller
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 18, 2025, at 11:09 AM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Matt
>>>> 
>>>> I am with you. I know there was a Dorney before 1910.
>>>> 
>>>> In looking at the Valuations 1916 there were 3 shanty's at Dorney. Two about 14x19 and one 3x5.  That 3x5 is listed as a Tool Box Shanty.  That was even smaller than the toilets.  Perhaps the 1901 structure Alex found.  There are no dates of construction in the valuations.
>>>> 
>>>> The first drawing in the N&WHS for Dorney I could find was dated 2/12/1909. It was for the foundation for the water softerner.  
>>>> 
>>>> On Friday, July 18, 2025 at 10:06:01 AM EDT, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Jim. The structure stood until somewhere between 1953 and 1959 - pretty durable for gravel!
>>>> 
>>>> The capacity from your source is interesting. I have a photo in my collection, ca. 1912, with the following caption:
>>>> 
>>>> "This is an 880-ton pocket, with sand drying house, boiler house, and small overhead dry sand bin.” 
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll add your 700t reference to my notes.
>>>> 
>>>> My project is a history of the place name, potentially for the Pickaway County Historical Society. The few locals that know the name associate it with a stop on the Scioto Valley Traction interurban. It was that, but given it was in far from any public roads, it was effectively only used for N&W employees of the plant. My assumption is that the place name came to be in 1901 (Alex Schust’s book), but I’m hoping earlier N&W timetables can confirm or refine when “Dorney” was first used. 
>>>> 
>>>> Matt Goodman
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2025, at 6:15 PM, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not sure where you are going but it is rather interesting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The first time Dorney showed up in my station list was a 1910 N&W station list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A 1917 list of N&W coaling stations contains the following:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dorney Built 1910 Concrete
>>>>> 4 Tracks 8 chutes
>>>>> Link Belt 700 ton cap.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I might add the valuations of 1916 and later show construction gravel.  I think they forgot to mention cement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim Blackstock
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thursday, July 17, 2025 at 02:51:59 PM EDT, NW Mailing List via NW-Mailing-List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org <mailto:nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi everyone, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m gathering some final notes on the Dorney, Ohio coaling station, and would like to nail down when that place-name was first referenced for a writing project.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The earliest reference I have is in Alex Schust’s book on the Scioto Division, where he states a tool house was built at Dorney in 1901. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> An 1887 Scioto Valley Railroad public timetable (N&W predecessor) from the rails and trails site does not list Dorney. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If any of you have some early, pre 1901, N&W timetables that you could check, I’d be very appreciative. Dorney was located just south of Circleville Ohio (zooming out a bit, between Chillicothe and Columbus). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt Goodman
>>>>> Columbus, Ohio, US 
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