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I saw a video made shortly after 611’s first return to service in 1982. Had some archival footage of the J’s in regular service. One clip was clearly the Powhatan Arrow but had an NYC Pullman in the consist between the diner and T-L observation. What would’ve been the reason to have an NYC Pullman in the consist for the Powhatan Arrow?

Sincerely,
Joseph Congemi
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> On May 27, 2024, at 2:09 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
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> I saw a 9 car Arrow once, and after the steam era and after the observation car was discontinued.  This was the eastbound Arrow in Roanoke on a Sunday evening. The eastbound Arrow transported numerous college students on Sundays. But usually it was a five car train otherwise.
> 
>   Raymond Smoot
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>> On May 27, 2024, at 12:32 PM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> The Arrow was planned with a P1, P2, three P3 coaches a D1 diner and P4 tavern lounge for a total of seven cars. The extra coaches were for primarily the Pocahontas and spares for shopping.
>> 
>> I’ve never seen any evidence of the Arrow longer than 7 cars, more often five cars. This refers to steam era Arrow of course, before combining with Cavalier.
>> 
>> Best
>> Ken Miller
>> 
>>>> On May 27, 2024, at 8:50 AM, NW Mailing List <nw-mailing-list at nwhs.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> N&W had 10 P3 coaches, which if all were used with the Arrow, would have allowed for two trains of 9 cars each: P1, P2, 5XP3, diner and tavern.  My question is, did they ever run Arrows that long?  
>>> Thanks,
>>> Jim Cochran
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